I don't know you keep insiting they copied harley...it's nothing like a harley... aluminum frame.. liquid cooled power plant..mono shock rear suspension ...adjustable windscreen...ext...ext..it's simply just a better bike...you know I've owned two harleys over the years...to me they are less comfortable to ride...both of them put my knees in a weird angle...think it the way the air cleaner is fitted to them...