Pedro

Sportsbike, a Ducati?

Ordered both the E07+ Dakar front and rear. I'm curious to try them now, as people comment it's way less noisy than the K60, which I found noisy.

Were you both waiting for me to order them before coming up with defects?

As long as they seal properly, I'll get a machine to fit them so not too worried. Being really hard is what attracts me to them as the chances of problems go way down. Mustn't be harder than the Heidenau K60 I used before.

Ordered a set of E07+ Dakar, ordered them online despite my dislike for online shops, but the Mitas importer said they didn't have a front and didn't know if they'd get one before September. To top it up they were 50€ more expensive on the rear tire alone, let's see if the online stock is true. The normal E07 is apparently a very good tire but not available for my sizes, the E07+ is supposedly nice but some people don't get much miles out of them, I like the comfort of having a really resistant tire to protect my wheels so there's that.

Seems like a solid candidate.

Seems to me a neighbour with a chauffeur is what you need.

There where? Weren't they the first of us to arrive "here"?

Caribeans? What would they feel if they say an ethiopian?

I'm ordering the E07 + Dakar tomorrow, calling a guy first to see if he managed to get the MotoZ or not, probably not, and then ordering. I'm going to like getting some less gay tires back on my bike. Will also get a rear shock plastic protector, and see if that fits, my bike runs a little taller than normal and as such there's less clearance between the tire and swing arm than on stock bikes. I'll also buy a leg's worth of surf suit and make a neoprene suit for the shock, just in case the plastic protector doesn't work with the more chunky tire. Game on for rocky roads and sliding on roundabouts! All this is just for fitting in mid September, but products have been failing so I'd rather have stuff ready than rushing around last minute.

The joke is on whoever wrote it, never realizing that their interests (always money) is better served by same interest and not race, conservative blacks and whites are going to be better to conservatives regardless, it's sad they don't see that.

If whatever tire I get doesn't make a noise I'll stick a whistle to the front forks, @boboneleg, can´t have a gay tire on my way South!

From what I've read they ride pretty much similar to the tire I have been using for two or three changes now on my bike, which is the normal TKC70. All that's different is that mine has got a continuous center band in the read tire instead of the little gaps you have in yours, and that translates to a little less traction offroad and a little more tire life overall. They're great tires, my absolute favourite road tire ever and I love them, but a little too soft for killer rocks and I'm either going to go with those or something harder and rock proof.

Is that a joke?

I can and did, but don't really want to. However, the worst tyre I had for tire noise was the original tire that came with my GS, the Michelin Anakee 3, it's made in trail sizes but its a road tire, it's complete shit though. At least with the Heidenau K60 the road noise was a trade with a tough as nails tire that lasts 10000 miles, with the anakee 3 it was all complete shit!

Didn’t even make a dent in the fuel tank at 90mpg! smart motorcycling!

Oh Mickey!

A Desert is not something I’m happy riding on for 8000km, though, Ian. They’re the definition of a desert racer with noise to go with that. No good having the best traction for those hipothetical 20km of sand if I fall over 5 times getting there.

I thought the + and the Dakar were the same. Great…

That’s exactly what I refered to in my first post, but I don’t know anyone that can tell me how confortable they are on road, and to be honest I don’t put mutch vallue on american’s opinions about this issue, and that’s all I find on youtube.

This is a TKC70, with some use, after a short bit of rocky roads, don’t know if you can see it but being a soft tire for good road use it gets easily damaged by jagged rocks in hot weather I’m happy with that in Portugal but not in Morocco

I never really looked into those, I rode an Aprilia Tuareg with them on, they didn't feel very offroady in offroad, felt soft too with very shallow thread depth and I didn't feel like they'd be much use on a heavy bike after a couple thousand kms in hot tarmac. My TKC70 would be my preferred choice but they would be no use in sandy places for traction and they're fragile when half worn, I can see little gauges after riding some rocky paths, I'm thinking these will be similar. I don't need them to last more than 6 or 7000km, but don't want the last couple of kms to be something that's on it's last legs.

I´ve used the Heidenau K60 on all Morocco trips before, they're not a tire you want when going fast on tarmac, it's a very hard carcass tire with a very hard rubber compound, that makes them last immensely but also makes them shit in the wet, and not a performance tire. However, what I like about them is that they're as tough as it gets regarding protecting the wheels from rocks and really nasty potholes, and they're better offroad than the lovely TKC70 I have been using and love for the road. I really dislike how noisy they are, too. Looking for an alternative I'm mostly looking for something quieter with adequate traction offroad, hard and tough so it takes a beating while relatively safe on tarmac so no proper knobbies as the majority of use is going to be tarmac. I am discarding soft stuff like the Karoo since I imagine that by the time I'm actually using them for a little dirt they'll be squared off and gone. Was about to order a set of MotoZ Tractionator GPS since they're supposedly way quieter and a match of better than the Heidenaus at everything else, but they're out of stock for my sizes and nobody knows when they're going to be available. Next suggestion is Mitas E07+, they're a harder carcass harder compound than the normal EO7 but I've got no experience with them. The rear tire hasn't got a center strip so probably better traction in softer terrain. Any suggestions? The bike is obviously my GS with 170/60R17 at the rear.