Pedro

That 1200 makes a GS Adventure look slim!

@busabeast I´ll be the one to say it since you can´t read between the lines. They won't hand one of their bikes over for you to thrash off-roading trying to prove you're the new off-roading prodigy.

You would be wrong, in this case. KTM dealerships used to only sell race bikes, because that's what they made, then with the adventure range dealerships got separated into two categories, the more "advanced" ones being able to sell and be authorized service shops for the more complicated engines and even more importantly, to cope with warranty claims which was not an issue with racebikes as there is no warranty on motocross or enduro bikes. The "very small" dealership I'm talking about is one of Portugal's most competent's shops regarding mechanics, they used to run Yamaha's Superbikes and Supersport efforts here, race bikes to the highest level. Ohlins uses them as their service provider for all Öhlins supported race bikes in Portugal. They used to sell a small number of KTM adventure bikes so some clients that used them for maintenance and wanted to buy a new bike. They easily got the licensing to sell those bikes and all was going ok until the chinese bikes appeared, after a couple of years of that they decline orders to sell or service those bikes, they have annoying faults from new and KTM doesn't solve it in serviceable times. Above all else, apparently KTM dealerships have authority on what bikes they order and display for sale, so they do what they please, and in this case decide to keep away from a troublesome line of bikes except if a valued client absolutely wants them to go through the chore of it.

They are doing their work and using the Dakar as development, they do ok too.

I personally know a dealer that quit selling KTM road (i mean multi cylinder) bikes and only does their offroad ones. So many issues which KTM wasn’t ready to help fix under warranty made it a nightmare to them so they just quit.

Not true though. The new paralel twin engines are shit quality and in longevity compared to the old v-twins.

185mm suspension travel at the front? Where's the good part of that bike compared what it used to be?

The italian guy in the design team took the afternoon off right when they finished that bike's rear end. From the rider's part of the seat backwards they did that in 15 minutes.

Honda sells good value bikes, that's why. Considering the price of building raw materials today, they're selling more metal for the money.

I would say the new one never looks clean, even the ones in the show room. Thus, the new ones will never look like they're unclean either. Agreed, the rear subframe being white suits it. The others don't look nice at all compared to that, but knowing BMW they'll release the Adventure in one year and that will look even better, and then two months later they'll release a new color scheme that will make all previous ones look like shit.

No, they were all very close together. Check google for Tenere 700 Word Raid Peterhansel

Similar to the previous 1250. Starts at 20 or 21k and then on bikes found at dealerships there's always a minimum of 5 or 6k of extras added on, many of those I would prefer to not have. That's what I don't like about this bike on concept, it comes stock with things I would prefer not to have to deal with.

Very pretty view, I love the twin tanks even though they might be tiresome in real life use. With this paint scheme this is the prettiest trail bike today in my opinion.

visited a dealership today, to buy some waterproofing spray as I might go on a ride in the next few days. Took the chance to go look at the new GS. Good thing is that it looks a lot less ugly in real life than on youtube. It feels smaller than mine as well, which it is so it’s not really surprising. Had a sit on one that I could start for it to go back up to riding height, and it does feel lighter. The paint they use now on the engine and swingarm is not smooth anymore, a little like bedliner or wrinkle paint, not really a fan but it looks hardy. It is a complicated bike though, very complicated.

Maybe heading to be more of a smaller Transalp than a trail CB?

Looking at the orange one, it's clear they didn't even consider a legal license plate holder and lights until after it was done

Here you go @XTreme! Hero Xtreme 160R, on full styling and profiling mode: https://www.heromotocorp.com/en-in/motorcycles/performance/xtreme-160r.html

I just wouldn’t bother on that weather, good for you!

Hang in there!

Evening yesterday in Ericeira

I think it looks better than the current version. That guy looking at it doesn’t seem very impressed with it, though

Hateful, who hurt you?

Taiwan I think, who have been making good mountainbike parts for years…