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I have just got off the phone with Triumph Dijon. I breifly described what you guys have suggested and he said that that was basically what they were proposing they would do. I now have 2 choices, either I go ahead and try to do this myself, (I have a 12v test lamp and a multimeter.) or I get them to do it which he reckons will take them a couple of hours so will cost me around 140€. If I do it myself, i will be chuffed as a very chuffed thing if it all goes ok and works. I do however have an uncanny knack of fucking things up ( with anything electronic) If I get them to do it it will be a professional job and I will have some comeback if it craps out over the next year or the connections come apart or something, and " oh dear I've fucked it for good, won't be an option" but it'll cost me 140 odd €. I'm waiting to see how soon they could do it, if I decide to get them to do the job.

I think you're right Cat. that means it will draw really minimum current right?

if he is I bet he doesn't admit it

Yup.

I moved to france 28 years ago. I married a french girl 22years ago. 5 years ago my wife's aunt told me that her son ( !8 yrs old) was gong to england to become a guitar maker, to a school in lincolnshire. (sleaford or somwhere like that). His Tutor was going to ba a highly regarded ( in the world of acoustic guitars) guitar maker called James Lister... James Lister is my cousin! ( my mum's brother's son) That blew my mind

@Sir Fallsalot Brilliant! yes there's a flashing lamp on the dash when the alarm is armed.

only cos I just took all the tape off. It was quite neat and tidy 'till I got my paws on it

i would If I had any way of knowing which wires they are....

bloody hell @Sir Fallsalot, that actually made sense to me! I have just removed the rest of the tape from the wires between the alarm and the main loom, and found this bunch od soldered connections. The overly consciantious person who fitted the alarm did remove all the coloured rings from the wires... however, I did spot that there are 2 wires with a wee white flag on ( twist of white tape) and 2 with a wee yellow flag on them. What are the chances of these being wires 1&2 and 5 &3 ( or 5&3 and 1&4 maybe? On the french diagram 1 &2 are white and 3&5 are yellow...

shit I just realised the instructions also say to remove the coloured rings once the installation is complete so I may have just wasted my time here.... bastards!

after searching most of the day, but only in French this time, as it seems this fuckup is specifically on the french models I have discovered this; the rest of this document clearly shows that the french remove the multiplug, replacing it with soldered connactions. ( with coloured rings on the ends) What i need to figure out is this: the triumph bypass plug shorts across wires 1 and 2 , and 3 and 5, so i need to connect the white with a white/green, and then the 2 yellows. this should have the same effect as this anybody think that sounds or looks right? ' @boboneleg, @Sir Fallsalot, @Catteeclan, @anybodywithmoreofacluethanme.... #goingnutsnotbeingabletoride

the wires are all black...all of them. According to datatool the alarm is designed to be very difficult to remove, that's the whole point of it.

in the UK yes.... unfortunately in rural France, not so easy. but I'm looking. the problem is finding someone competent and willing to do it. Most of the competent guys work for a garage who won't touch bikes or for a dealer who won't touch another make. Independat, competent AND not a multi hour ride from me....

i've read that too, unfortunately mine doesn't seem to have that piece of equippement. I have maild the dealer in Dijon with a request for a solution. I intend to get back to datatool on tuesday and ask them for a solution ( their techniciens have always been very good on the phone). If none of that brings a satisfactory solution I will have to try The triumph dealers in Paris and contact Triumph France, with a translated copy to Triumph head office requesting a solution. we'll see what Dijon propose, but I imagine it will be to replace the entire wiring harness, which I clearly cannot afford to do.

oh I am soooo fucked! I'm not good with electrics at the best of times but this is all soo far beyond me.

this is ahy you should always read books in their original language if possible, translation ALWAYS has to balance between translating the sense of a word given the context, or the litteral translation.

funnily enough, french is a less rich language than english ( for example) English has 4 majour roots: Latin, Nordic, germanic and anglosaxon wheras French has only One Majour root in Latin and a number of much more minor roots in the various celtic languages and the Langue D'Oc. Which is why the average englishman has a much larger vovabulary than his french counterpart. The english often have 3 or 4 words with the same ( or very near) meaning, wheras the French will have one word with a number of different meanings. Or so It was once explained to me...

yeah but, no but, yeah but... The French use "Feu" to mean light as well as fire. The rear light on a car for example is a " Feu arriere" spot lights are " Feux longue portée" and so on and so forth so "feu" can be translated as fire, or light, as in the case of " couvre feu".

NOT happy... ( now there's a surprise!) following from an earlier post somewhere where my bike's bloody alrm screwed me AGAIN, I contacted the maker DATATOOL ( scorpion automotive) in the uk who basically said it's dead, remove it. Order the triumph plug,. he gave me the part number. This corresponds to the vid of alarm removal from a 1200 that Buck found for me and also corresponds to everything I've read online about these alarms including asking the question on 2 bike specific forums. So, I ordered the plug ( about 40€) and looked for the alarm location on the bike... Not where that video suggested but up under the tail piece just forward of the tail light. once I accessed it I see that it is NOT connectec via the famous plug but the wires dissapear into the bikes wiring harness around the battery. This means I can't ride it cos the risk of it shutting down the bike whilst riding is (apparently) very real and I can't repair it or remove the alarm either as this would mean having to strip the bike completely and trace every single wire from the alarm to it's terminal, remove it and remake the wiring harness. I obviously can't afford to pay someone else to do it either. I'm open to suggestions if anyone has any ideas. I will be ringing Datatool probably tuesday to see if they can suggest a solution but beyond that...

I was going to say the XT lasted maybe longer...

8 months... 'bout the longest you've kept a bike isn't it?

me too

depends on context. But the word curfew, does, technically, literally mean "Lights out".

Curfew, the english word, comes from the english mispronunciation of the french " Couvre Feu" literally "Lights out". As a child at boarding school, each year group had a different "lights out" time when they are required to be in bed by, later as you get older and only theoretical in the last 2 years.