Thanks for the advice, I haven't ridden the CB500 for a while (a return to biking day just before the COVID thingy), and it went ok, although a lot of the ones for sale on the usual suspects seem a bit pricey for the age and mileage and there's always the suspicion they could be ex courier/deliveroo/rider school. Same goes for the GS500 (although I've always liked the look of the F model) and the E5N. Will keep my eye out for a decent CB though. As for scooters and 125cc, I'm not sure they're for me and at 6ft 1 and a fair bit north of the NHS ideal BMI, think a sub 250cc bike might struggle up some of the hills round here.
I had a test ride on the Benelli leoncino that my local bike shop had as a part ex and must agree with the YouTube mob (Motors for the masses, M. Flyer etc) it's a nice retro'ish twin, comfortable and seems quite well put together, also seems to be a lot of bike with virtually no mileage for the money, also with all the add ones (luggage racks, screens, heated this and that) available on AliExpress etc it seems a no brainer, however it's Chinese and although they are improving still not sure how it would last a couple of winters lugging Fatboy around our potholed over salted excuse for roads that we have.
So, had another look round and he's got a Kawasaki ER6F 2008 with 18k on it, within my price range, not had a test ride only sat on it and it seems comfortable, good protection and a quite upright seating position, does anyone body have any thoughts on them Vs a bandit or hornet etc?
Now as for the Kwak W650, yes please , lovely looking bike, not sure on running costs etc but who cares if you get to look and ride that every day. Oh decisions decisions!!!,