F850GS

[Pedro]

Trying not to hijack Michelle's thread anymore, @XTreme, about the 850:

 

This is a current F850GS, wet weight is 229kg with 15 liters of fuel and 92Nm

 

 

 

 

This is a 2017 R1200GS Rallye, wet weight is 244kg with 20 liters of fuel, and 125Nm

 

A 2011 R1200GS, wet weight is 238kg with 23 liters of fuel and 120Nm, 

 

 

Looking at the weights and the torque, I fail to see the advancements.

I know they're all twice the weight of a 60s Yamaha DT1, but still, I don't think the 850 is a better bike, obviously apart from price. The thing with a 850, or a T700, or whatever, is that although probably quite easier off tarmac, they just don't really do it for me. I love starting my bike in the morning, and the engine for just going along country roads.

When I really feel like mine needs another one to ease on the wear I will be taking a look at a second bike, for now I don't think I will. The idea of something less precious to me that could be cruised down proper dirt roads with less emotional worries sure is appealing though. 

[XTreme]

I didn't think the 800 series were that heavy......40kgs more than my 650!

[Pedro]

Just now, XTreme said:

I didn't think the 800 series were that heavy......40kgs more than my 650!

It got heavier with the 850, but still everyone that tests them say they are better offroad than the previous 800, which would be a choice for a 50/50 touring bike if buying something smaller and used:

The previous F800GS, at 207kg wet with 15 liters and 80Nm, still with the fuel in the rear:

 

 

[Grasshopper]

I love the F850GS  

The F750GS is also very nice, more street, but I like it too.

[XTreme]

@Buckster will be along shortly to tell you that they're Chinese!

[Buckster]

54 minutes ago, XTreme said:

@Buckster will be along shortly to tell you that they're Chinese!

Chinese shite!