Catteeclan Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 The 2 vaccinations help your body deal with the infection, not stop you getting or passing it on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted July 3, 2021 Author Share Posted July 3, 2021 I see they're bringing Curfews back there @Pedro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catteeclan Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Numbers of infections going up here and across EU. Should keep some safe guards going but I bet they don't. All about money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted July 3, 2021 Author Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 03/07/2021 at 19:14, Catteeclan said: Numbers of infections going up here and across EU. Should keep some safe guards going but I bet they don't. All about money. Expand Oh yeh......and come October we'll all be banged up again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 03/07/2021 at 19:14, Catteeclan said: Numbers of infections going up here and across EU. Should keep some safe guards going but I bet they don't. All about money. Expand Absolutely Dave, it's all about money. Boris the bogladite is just going to let it all open now ................. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 There are plenty of false positives with the lateral flow tests. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catteeclan Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 03/07/2021 at 21:34, boboneleg said: Absolutely Dave, it's all about money. Boris the bogladite is just going to let it all open now ................. Expand He's got to open up sooner or later, think we should of stopped travel abroad. Lets face it that's where it all came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 03/07/2021 at 19:14, Catteeclan said: Numbers of infections going up here and across EU. Should keep some safe guards going but I bet they don't. All about money. Expand Infection rates will rise but have the death rates risen, you can test positive after having two jabs but are less likely to die is this what we are seeing now ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 04/07/2021 at 09:12, Sir Fallsalot said: Infection rates will rise but have the death rates risen, you can test positive after having two jabs but are less likely to die is this what we are seeing now ? Expand Yes. Infection rates are rising but hospitalisation and deaths currently arent increasing at the same rate which is the key factor. Getting a mild illness that requires no intervention and causes no long term disability is the key. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 03/07/2021 at 09:46, Catteeclan said: The 2 vaccinations help your body deal with the infection, not stop you getting or passing it on. Expand Well that is sort of true. The vaccination gives your body’s immune system a memory of what the unwanted virus looks like so when the real deal turns up your immune systems bouncers are ready to go. A side effect of this in people with a reasonable immune response is the virus is wiped out before it gets a hold or to the shedding stage which is where you are shedding diseased cells and can infect other people. The shedding timing is different in different diseases. So by their very nature all immunisations cut down on disease transmission. This is how the herd immunity effect works, it helps to protect the unvaccinated because it becomes difficult for the virus to transmit and that gives protection to the morons who dont want to get vaccinated. So yes someone can have a vaccination and still catch a disease and pass it on its just at a vastly reduced rate. Its not something they want to broadcast at the moment because its not useful for compliance with mask wearing or crowd control before they have enough people jabbed. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 An entertaining covid story- school children have discovered orange juice gives a false positive on a covid test so guess what the little monkeys have been doing when they want to stay at home 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tym Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Next up, reparations for this war crime, justice delayed is justice denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 they are supposed to be dropping the mask idea on the 19'th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 04/07/2021 at 18:10, skyrider said: they are supposed to be dropping the mask idea on the 19'th Expand From what I saw it looks like all restrictions are finished then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 some doctors are suggesting that it should be left up to the individual wether or not they wear a mask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 04/07/2021 at 09:53, Slowlycatchymonkey said: Well that is sort of true. The vaccination gives your body’s immune system a memory of what the unwanted virus looks like so when the real deal turns up your immune systems bouncers are ready to go. A side effect of this in people with a reasonable immune response is the virus is wiped out before it gets a hold or to the shedding stage which is where you are shedding diseased cells and can infect other people. The shedding timing is different in different diseases. So by their very nature all immunisations cut down on disease transmission. This is how the herd immunity effect works, it helps to protect the unvaccinated because it becomes difficult for the virus to transmit and that gives protection to the morons who dont want to get vaccinated. So yes someone can have a vaccination and still catch a disease and pass it on its just at a vastly reduced rate. Its not something they want to broadcast at the moment because its not useful for compliance with mask wearing or crowd control before they have enough people jabbed. Expand At least you led in gently before you called him a dumb cunt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 I see that in two weeks time all restrictions end there? No other countries are abandoning masks and social distancing for the unvaccinated, so WTF are they doing given that these are the current stats? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 05/07/2021 at 08:16, XTreme said: I see that in two weeks time all restrictions end there? No other countries are abandoning masks and social distancing for the unvaccinated, so WTF are they doing given that these are the current stats? Expand cause we are all vaccinated , and the ones that aint .....through choice , who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 05/07/2021 at 08:28, Six30 said: cause we are all vaccinated , and the ones that aint .....through choice , who cares. Expand If you're all vaccinated why are the figures going through the roof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 05/07/2021 at 08:30, XTreme said: If you're all vaccinated why are the figures going through the roof? Expand cause they are testing more people than they was .... look at deaths and hospital admissions, compared to what they was you fucking drama queen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 05/07/2021 at 08:36, Six30 said: cause they are testing more people than they was .... look at deaths and hospital admissions, compared to what they was you fucking drama queen. Expand We'll see how this turns out then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I am having serious trouble not turning into a grammar nazi, feeling triggered though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Yep, in two weeks time all bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 05/07/2021 at 18:21, boboneleg said: Yep, in two weeks time all bets are off. Expand Even the BMA have cautioned against it! But @Six30 seems to think it'll be OK......so there is that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I will just carry on in the same way has I have been doing these past months. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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