Pedro Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I don't get it, it's been announced as game changing but they now say it's 10kg lighter than a GS. The GS is lower in weight, can't see how 10kg might be such a revolution, the boxer is such a sweet thing in this type of bike I can't see the weight difference making up for it. Better offroad? Surely with the normal forks and bigger front wheel, but overall? Surely it's no 1000cc Africa Twin or KTM I was secretly hoping it would really be a world appart, but can't see it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I think @Tango's the authority on this stuff! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, XTreme said: I think @Tango's the authority on this stuff! I know fuck all about this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Pedro said: I don't get it, it's been announced as game changing but they now say it's 10kg lighter than a GS. The GS is lower in weight, can't see how 10kg might be such a revolution, the boxer is such a sweet thing in this type of bike I can't see the weight difference making up for it. Better offroad? Surely with the normal forks and bigger front wheel, but overall? Surely it's no 1000cc Africa Twin or KTM I was secretly hoping it would really be a world appart, but can't see it. The weight is important, but also how it carries the weight. My Street Scrambler weighs nearly 30kg more than the CB500X, but the Triumph carries the weight lower, so it doesn't feel as top heavy as the Honda did. This makes the low speed manoeuvring easier for me on the Triumph. To be honest, I don't think that anyone is likely to launch a bike that is significantly better than what's already out there. It'll all come down to personal preference. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, Tango said: My Street Scrambler weighs nearly 30kg more than the CB500X Why is it that much heavier Bob? Cos it doesn't look it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, XTreme said: Why is it that much heavier Bob? Cos it doesn't look it! I swear, Pete, you ask the silliest questions... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Pedro said: I swear, Pete, you ask the silliest questions... Well to me it looks very stripped down and basic. As an example, an MT09 is even lighter than mine at 188kg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 24 minutes ago, XTreme said: Well to me it looks very stripped down and basic. As an example, an MT09 is even lighter than mine at 188kg. @Tango's Triumph's vs a 500 Honda is metal vs. plastic, English built vs. Japanese, also the little matter of one being a 500 while the other is a 900cc. No wonder the bigger bike (by almost twice the engine size) is heavier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Pedro said: @Tango's Triumph's vs a 500 Honda is metal vs. plastic, English built vs. Japanese, also the little matter of one being a 500 while the other is a 900cc. No wonder the bigger bike (by almost twice the engine size) is heavier. I'm not comparing it to a CB500X specifically! Just saying how a bike that appears to be very minimal is so heavy......while being marketed as a "Scrambler". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 11 hours ago, XTreme said: Why is it that much heavier Bob? Cos it doesn't look it! As @Pedro says, more metal in it, bigger engine and wire wheels. But, because it carries the weight lower it doesn’t feel that heavy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 10 hours ago, Pedro said: @Tango's Triumph's vs a 500 Honda is metal vs. plastic, English built vs. Japanese, also the little matter of one being a 500 while the other is a 900cc. No wonder the bigger bike (by almost twice the engine size) is heavier. Pretty sure the Triumph is made in Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 hours ago, XTreme said: I'm not comparing it to a CB500X specifically! Just saying how a bike that appears to be very minimal is so heavy......while being marketed as a "Scrambler". Yeah, "scrambler" is just a marketing thing, it's not a real serious off-roader, but it's solid enough to be able to take a bit of punishment. The MT10 has an alloy frame, amongst other things, to reduce weight. My Speed Triple had a nylon fuel tank to save weight. There's all sorts of places that weight can be saved. The twin, Euro 5 exhausts, on mine don't do much to save weight! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 10 hours ago, Pedro said: I swear, Pete, you ask the silliest questions... Yeah, you fucking ginger idiot! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Buckster said: Pretty sure the Triumph is made in Thailand. Correct. At Triumph's factory there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Buckster said: Yeah, you fucking ginger idiot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mawsley said: Rally Explorer: 575 lbs (261 kg) And 95% of that weight is carried above the screen. Shaving 10kg is pure bollocks, it’s still a top heavy fucker. Compared to the previous version it's quite lighter, though, the 10kg is comparing it to a modern BMW GS1250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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