Sir Fallsalot Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 hours ago, XTreme said: Fred's backdrops in the Welsh Valleys don't look like anything I've ever seen in Wales. My view was it's OK to enhance a pic but those are Mawsley levels of enhancement. In his pics he made his POS Vespa on a back lane look like a fucking MV Agusta in Monte Carlo! Tell me again when you were last in the valleys ? that's right when there were still working coal mines and slag heaps everywhere, you do know we have rain here and with that things grow especially when you don't live in an empty waste land full of decay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yen_powell Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I'm neither one way nor the other. I can't even remember the question at the top after reading through the answers. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sir Fallsalot said: Tell me again when you were last in the valleys ? that's right when there were still working coal mines and slag heaps everywhere, you do know we have rain here and with that things grow especially when you don't live in an empty waste land full of decay It’s not a wasteland, it’s dark motorcycling. sounds cooler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Just now, Pedro said: It’s not a wasteland, it’s dark motorcycling. sounds cooler Oops sorry my mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Sir Fallsalot said: Tell me again when you were last in the valleys ? that's right when there were still working coal mines and slag heaps everywhere, you do know we have rain here and with that things grow especially when you don't live in an empty waste land full of decay As I said at the outset I voted to allow it, but there have been points raised over a period of time about the validity of extremely enhanced pics. And voting does seem to be split so it looks like some are not keen on it. Basically I'm just throwing the decision out to the forum so we have a definitive rule on it once and for all. Also there was a query about Yen's pic because he didn't take it.....but there's never been any rule to say a third party can't take it. Your bike......taken this month.....that's the criteria it's always been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busabeast Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 See as I don't actually know how to photoshop im at a disadvantage so I'm saying no How bad is the original to need photoshoping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yen_powell Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 hours ago, XTreme said: As I said at the outset I voted to allow it, but there have been points raised over a period of time about the validity of extremely enhanced pics. And voting does seem to be split so it looks like some are not keen on it. Basically I'm just throwing the decision out to the forum so we have a definitive rule on it once and for all. Also there was a query about Yen's pic because he didn't take it.....but there's never been any rule to say a third party can't take it. Your bike......taken this month.....that's the criteria it's always been. I could have put my Norfolk speed camera photo back in the spring I suppose, but I was too embarrassed at the low speed reading. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Richzx6r said: See as I don't actually know how to photoshop im at a disadvantage so I'm saying no How bad is the original to need photoshoping I agree Rich, I’ve never photoshopped anything, have used paint to crop a photo though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 As someone with mad photography skills I obviously don't need photoshop. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 If you take the right photo at the right place then you don’t need photoshop, like this one the other day at the safari park. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Buckster said: If you take the right photo at the right place then you don’t need photoshop, like this one the other day at the safari park. he doesn't look very impressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, skyrider said: he doesn't look very impressed He is intimidated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 10 hours ago, XTreme said: As I said at the outset I voted to allow it, but there have been points raised over a period of time about the validity of extremely enhanced pics. And voting does seem to be split so it looks like some are not keen on it. Basically I'm just throwing the decision out to the forum so we have a definitive rule on it once and for all. Also there was a query about Yen's pic because he didn't take it.....but there's never been any rule to say a third party can't take it. Your bike......taken this month.....that's the criteria it's always been. @XTreme I don't consider what i done as photo shop, buckster adding his bike to that Lion photo is what i consider photoshop After sleeping on this i had an interesting thought, which of these two photos i took would you call photo shop on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sir Fallsalot said: I don't consider what i done as photo shop, buckster adding his bike to that Lion photo is what i consider photoshop After sleeping on this i had an interesting thought, which of these two photos i took would you call photo shop on. Both of them because you are a retard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 Poll is closed......Photoshopping is allowed! You can sleep tonight now @Sir Fallsalot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 minute ago, XTreme said: Poll is closed......Photoshopping is allowed! You can sleep tonight now @Sir Fallsalot. I cant until you answered my question above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Sir Fallsalot said: I cant until you answered my question above Second one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, XTreme said: Second one! I was thinking you would say both but its none of them, I took them with my old canon digital camera, they are how the photos looked after i pressed the button but before i pressed the button i played about with the settings on the camera and took a few shots of the same scene on different settings until i got a shot i liked and that's what photographers do but obviously a lot better than me, they are basically applying filters before they take the photo i applied one on some of my photos after i took them so in reality adjusting your camera before you take a photo is no different to enhancing a photo after it has been taken. This is the top photo taken a few times using different settings on the camera on the same day at the same time so how can you tell if its been manipulated before or after the photo is taken 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sir Fallsalot said: I was thinking you would say both but its none of them, I took them with my old canon digital camera, they are how the photos looked after i pressed the button but before i pressed the button i played about with the settings on the camera and took a few shots of the same scene on different settings until i got a shot i liked and that's what photographers do but obviously a lot better than me, they are basically applying filters before they take the photo i applied one on some of my photos after i took them so in reality adjusting your camera before you take a photo is no different to enhancing a photo after it has been taken. This is the top photo taken a few times using different settings on the camera on the same day at the same time so how can you tell if its been manipulated before or after the photo is taken You can never be sure......so we just have to rely on the individual not to overdo it to the point where it doesn't look natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busabeast Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, XTreme said: You can never be sure......so we just have to rely on the individual not to overdo it to the point where it doesn't look natural. So cut the greenery out Fred you're in Wales..... (Petes words) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 12/10/2022 at 20:17, MooN said: I agree with Pedro on this one, but also agree that there's a difference between " fine tuning " a picture ( cropping a bit, erasing the reg number, redimensioning etc ) and there's serious photoshop type manipulation like making the sky blue when it wasn't, adding or removing elements, which is a little bit cheating really. where to draw the line and how to decide is the real problem. I would be inclined to make no stipulations at all other than those already in place and people vote for which pic they like best according to their own criteria if it becomes silly people will either stop voting or stop participating. Exactly Moon if you don't like what you see don't vote for it after all its only bike of the month you don't even get a fucking prize 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Just have to say, the reality of anyone here owing and actually using Photoshop seems low. Adobe software is not really what everyone uses, at least outside of the professional world. Most people just use the software provided on their phone or computer. So it’s another brand that has become a description. A little editing is just part of digital imaging as it was in the darkroom with negatives. Always some editing, just keep it reasonable and it’s fine by me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Richzx6r said: So cut the greenery out Fred you're in Wales..... (Petes words) More slagheaps and burnt out cars are needed to be authentic! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: Just have to say, the reality of anyone here owing and actually using Photoshop seems low. I have to use it for work! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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