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  On 07/09/2023 at 20:19, Slowlycatchymonkey said:

I think Fred’s point is it’s not the end of moving to another country fullstop which is how you tend to make it sound every time you bring up Brexit.
There are visa’s and exceptions made like for elderly dependents, the nonlucrative visa or many other solutions that certainly aren’t as easy as waving your EU passport and going where you like but it’s certainly not the end of immigration. 

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How many people would want to face that bureaucratic nightmare in Spain though? @Skippy couldn't get round it and that was just to import a bike!

I'm sure it's more efficient in NL, Germany etc......but here? It don't bear thinking about!

It would certainly stop me making the move that's for sure.

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  On 07/09/2023 at 20:31, XTreme said:

How many people would want to face that bureaucratic nightmare in Spain though? @Skippy couldn't get round it and that was just to import a bike!

I'm sure it's more efficient in NL, Germany etc......but here? It don't bear thinking about!

It would certainly stop me making the move that's for sure.

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To be fair Pete the main issue was that to get around it (get an engineer’s report) it was going to cost a couple of thousand euros and I’d only paid £1,500 for the bike in the first place so it didn’t make economic sense.

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  On 07/09/2023 at 20:31, XTreme said:

How many people would want to face that bureaucratic nightmare in Spain though? @Skippy couldn't get round it and that was just to import a bike!

I'm sure it's more efficient in NL, Germany etc......but here? It don't bear thinking about!

It would certainly stop me making the move that's for sure.

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Be happy then Pete, you’re always complaining about the dross in Brit ghettos and now anyone not willing or able to fill in a form (the expat knuckle draggers you so despise) won’t be coming!  

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  On 07/09/2023 at 18:32, XTreme said:

I'm telling you the legal situation as it currently stands. If you can give me links to support your alternative POV then I'm all ears!

You mentioned the right criteria? Do you know what that is? Well it's investing more than €500,000 in property in order to apply for a Golden Visa!

Has @Six30 got a cool half million laying round? What about you and @busabeast?

If none of you have.......then you won't be moving to Spain and living here in the way that me and @Skippy can. 

Your only option is to work around the 90 day rule like @Slowlycatchymonkey does.

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That will change soon …. Nieghbour 

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  On 07/09/2023 at 17:10, busabeast said:

Are you heading in to the northeast?

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Name a town, I'm not sure. We'll go to Liverpool and ride through to catch a ferry to the Isle of Man, then catch it back and spend a few days riding around going south again visiting a few of Sofia's friends.

If the weather remains sunny we might go further north to Scotland, but if it turns to rain at the time we won't.

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  On 07/09/2023 at 22:02, Pedro said:

Name a town, I'm not sure. We'll go to Liverpool and ride through to catch a ferry to the Isle of Man, then catch it back and spend a few days riding around going south again visiting a few of Sofia's friends.

If the weather remains sunny we might go further north to Scotland, but if it turns to rain at the time we won't.

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Careful, he wants to show you a room.

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  On 07/09/2023 at 22:02, Pedro said:

Name a town, I'm not sure. We'll go to Liverpool and ride through to catch a ferry to the Isle of Man, then catch it back and spend a few days riding around going south again visiting a few of Sofia's friends.

If the weather remains sunny we might go further north to Scotland, but if it turns to rain at the time we won't.

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Lets be having the piratey singing then..

side to side singing GIF by Super Simple

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  On 07/09/2023 at 20:19, Slowlycatchymonkey said:

I think Fred’s point is it’s not the end of moving to another country fullstop which is how you tend to make it sound every time you bring up Brexit.
There are visa’s and exceptions made like for elderly dependents, the nonlucrative visa or many other solutions that certainly aren’t as easy as waving your EU passport and going where you like but it’s certainly not the end of immigration. 

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That's exactly what i'm trying to say thank you @Slowlycatchymonkey 
Pete you followed your dreams and moved to Spain and i admire you for that but when you keep suggesting that we're living in a shit hole and your living the dream and slagging off the UK at every opportunity it just makes it looks like your trying to justify your decision to move there to me, but from where i'm sitting looking in i have it a damn sight better. Now Skippy on the other hand looks like he's living the Spanish dream and enjoying his retirement there.

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  On 07/09/2023 at 20:31, XTreme said:

How many people would want to face that bureaucratic nightmare in Spain though? @Skippy couldn't get round it and that was just to import a bike!

I'm sure it's more efficient in NL, Germany etc......but here? It don't bear thinking about!

It would certainly stop me making the move that's for sure.

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You see this is another thing i'm going on about, you couldn't of wanted to move to Spain that much because if you really wanted something you would do what you could to get it, like you did getting your boy out of Poland. What it looks like your saying here is though is you moved there because it was easy hence why your trying to justify moving there. I'm just saying :classic_tongue:

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It’s just the EU being as difficult with the uk as they can…. There is rumblings of Spain wanting it back how it was , but it’s the eu they are dealing with 

https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/11/10/spain-wants-to-scrap-90-day-rule-for-british-tourists-allowing-them-to-stay-indefinitely

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  On 08/09/2023 at 06:58, Six30 said:

It’s just the EU being as difficult with the uk as they can…. There is rumblings of Spain wanting it back how it was , but it’s the eu they are dealing with 

https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/11/10/spain-wants-to-scrap-90-day-rule-for-british-tourists-allowing-them-to-stay-indefinitely

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What I've been hearing is that Spain (after initially seeming to enforce the 90 day rule) are now turning a blind eye to it.

A client of mine who's not a resident (despite living here longer than me) was told to leave 2 years ago. He's still here now and the authorities have never bothered him since.

My boy left Spain in 2016, got residency in Poland (technically invalidating his Spanish residency) then returned last year and Spain has no knowledge of him having left or re-entered as no passports were ever stamped.

Yes, in principle they could investigate and find him having gone through the airports when he did, but they can't disprove any assertion that he re-entered via car numerous times during that period.

And knowing the Spanish as I do, they're never going to make work for themselves to try and ascertain what actually happened during that period. 

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  On 08/09/2023 at 07:37, XTreme said:

What I've been hearing is that Spain (after initially seeming to enforce the 90 day rule) are now turning a blind eye to it.

A client of mine who's not a resident (despite living here longer than me) was told to leave 2 years ago. He's still here now and the authorities have never bothered him since.

My boy left Spain in 2016, got residency in Poland (technically invalidating his Spanish residency) then returned last year and Spain has no knowledge of him having left or re-entered as no passports were ever stamped.

Yes, in principle they could investigate and find him having gone through the airports when he did, but they can't disprove any assertion that he re-entered via car numerous times during that period.

And knowing the Spanish as I do, they're never going to make work for themselves to try and ascertain what actually happened during that period. 

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Careful, the FPM will report him.

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  On 08/09/2023 at 06:23, Sir Fallsalot said:

That's exactly what i'm trying to say thank you @Slowlycatchymonkey 
Pete you followed your dreams and moved to Spain and i admire you for that but when you keep suggesting that we're living in a shit hole and your living the dream and slagging off the UK at every opportunity it just makes it looks like your trying to justify your decision to move there to me, but from where i'm sitting looking in i have it a damn sight better. Now Skippy on the other hand looks like he's living the Spanish dream and enjoying his retirement there.

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…………..it’s a struggle some days but I keep persevering with the 🏍⛳️🍷🍺💃😜😜😜😜😜😜😜

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  On 07/09/2023 at 20:05, XTreme said:

All that's been achieved is the retirement dreams of many Brits to move to Spain, France, Italy etc have been taken away from them. The vetting threshold is far too high for ordinary people.

And it can also cause issues within  families.....look at Bob's situation for example. His missus and his boy could move to Italy if they wanted......but he's going nowhere. He's stuck where he is. Now they may well not ever want to move to Italy.....but that's not the point. He had those rights and now he doesn't. 

If something happened to me......what's going to happen to the wife? She's not just allowed to move to NL as she would have been able to do. If that day arises my boy will sort something out, but it's still going to be an involved process.

None of this affects the rich of course.....nothing ever does. Just working class folks like most of us here are.

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Now that sounds like Bollox , if bob is married he could get residency , probably even if he is not married to her .

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