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[boboneleg]

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[XTreme]

Back from Juan Cortes!

So much smoother now!

For some reason Honda specify 10-30 instead of 10-40 on this.......so that's what it had!

[Catteeclan]

3 hours ago, XTreme said:

Just gone live: Sol Simple Properties

I'm now off to Baza for the oil and filter change!

Crikey, they're got some money on the books.

[XTreme]

55 minutes ago, Catteeclan said:

Crikey, they're got some money on the books.

It covers the Costa del Sol, which includes Marbella!

Serious money to live there!

[Sir Fallsalot]

4 hours ago, XTreme said:

Back from Juan Cortes!

So much smoother now!

For some reason Honda specify 10-30 instead of 10-40 on this.......so that's what it had!

Same on the CRF Pete. stupid thing is i couldn't buy genuine Honda oil from a Honda dealer but i can buy it in M&P's Swansea 

[XTreme]

24 minutes ago, Sir Fallsalot said:

Same on the CRF Pete. stupid thing is i couldn't buy genuine Honda oil from a Honda dealer but i can buy it in M&P's Swansea 

What benefit is there in 10-30 then?

[Sir Fallsalot]

58 minutes ago, XTreme said:

What benefit is there in 10-30 then?

Not sure but that's what the book says so that's what it has. The Beta is 10-50 so i have to buy 3 different oils for the bikes. Before the new bike's i got, everything took 10-40 semi so i just had one 20l drum it was so simple. Now i have to buy expensive stuff as well

[XTreme]

19 minutes ago, Sir Fallsalot said:

Not sure but that's what the book says so that's what it has. The Beta is 10-50 so i have to buy 3 different oils for the bikes. Before the new bike's i got everything took 10-40 semi so i just hat one 20l drum it was so simple. Now i have to buy expensive stuff as well

I had Castrol Power 1 semi-synth!

[Pedro]

23 minutes ago, XTreme said:

I had Castrol Power 1 semi-synth!

If you care enough to use specific oil then use fully synthetic.

 It’s probably 10w30 to make less drag on the engine and make it that tiny bit better on fuel, some race engines are the same and you can feel the difference at really high rpms as they turn more freely.

[XTreme]

5 minutes ago, Pedro said:

If you care enough to use specific oil then use fully synthetic.

They advise not to use full synth in them!

And anyway, with my oil changing routine of 3000 kms it wouldn't be worth it because longevity isn't a factor in my case.

[Six30]

6 hours ago, boboneleg said:

Get in ……

 

was the toilet closed ?

[XTreme]

1 hour ago, Sir Fallsalot said:

Not sure but that's what the book says so that's what it has. The Beta is 10-50 so i have to buy 3 different oils for the bikes. Before the new bike's i got, everything took 10-40 semi so i just had one 20l drum it was so simple. Now i have to buy expensive stuff as well

I found this on the CB500X forum.......the guy seems to know what he's talking about!

10W30 is a multigrade oil. When it is cold it has a viscosity of 10 (the weight of the oil) which means that it is thin. Exactly what you need in a cold engine. When the temperature is +100°C the oil has a viscosity of 30 (somewhat thicker). Again: exactly what you need with a warm engine.

Switching to 10W40 is not a disaster: your cold engine runs with the same thin oil (viscosity 10) but when it has +100°C, it will run with a thicker oil (40). A thicker oil could be used when the engine is somewhat worn out as it offers a bit more protection. Remember: thicker oil is harder to pump around.

[Pedro]

18 minutes ago, XTreme said:

When it is cold it has a viscosity of 10 (the weight of the oil) which means that it is thin. Exactly what you need in a cold engine. When the temperature is +100°C the oil has a viscosity of 30 (somewhat thicker).

He knows shit!

Nothing gets thicker with heat except you and him!

will type properly later when not on the phone.

[Sir Fallsalot]

1 hour ago, XTreme said:

They advise not to use full synth in them!

And anyway, with my oil changing routine of 3000 kms it wouldn't be worth it because longevity isn't a factor in my case.

I thought 3000km's is when you changed bikes 

[XTreme]

15 minutes ago, Marcel said:

What's truly amazing in all of this is ...in all these decades Pete owned bikes he never learned how to do a simple oil change...it boggles my mind...

I can do oil changes you twat!

But when you're nearly 70 and suffering with a Hernia you really don't feel much like doing it.

[boboneleg]

5 minutes ago, XTreme said:

I can do oil changes you twat!

But when you're nearly 70 and suffering with a Hernia you really don't feel much like doing it.

I’ve serviced my bike on one leg and crutches 

 

[Sir Fallsalot]

3 minutes ago, boboneleg said:

I’ve serviced my bike on one leg and crutches 

 

Wasn't the bike a bit unstable on one leg and crutches, i thought you had a ramp LOL

[Sir Fallsalot]

New tyre for the rear of the XR arrived today, Only trouble is i think i need a new wheel to put it on, there's a broken spoke a bent one and a few loose ones on the wheel to replace which i have but the rim is in poor condition inside so may go for a rebuild

[Sir Fallsalot]

Just now, Sir Fallsalot said:

 there's a broken spoke a bent one and a few loose ones 

 

Reading that back it sounds like some of the fuckers on here 

[XTreme]

Where's @Skippy.....haven't seem him for a while?

Looking for another bike I bet.......cos he's got no offroad capability with the Tracer!

[Skippy]

3 minutes ago, XTreme said:

Where's @Skippy.....haven't seem him for a while?

Looking for another bike I bet.......cos he's got no offroad capability with the Tracer!

I’ve been busy being a cockney wanker.

However, you’re correct about the Tracer. Lovely bike and a blast on the roads but man-o-man do I miss the ability to head off into the great unknown.

 Can’t bring myself to sell the Tracer and dirt bike options are severely limited by my available budget. I’m not going down the route of buying a shit heap with the aspiration of making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.

Currently looking at a cheap-ish e-mountain bike………….who knows.

[XTreme]

5 minutes ago, Skippy said:

I’ve been busy being a cockney wanker.

Out the Tracer and get a new TA!

[Skippy]

Just now, XTreme said:

Out the Tracer and get a new TA!

Fuck that, I don’t care how good the new TA is meant to be that is one boring looking bike. Honda have out-done their sensible tag.

[XTreme]

5 minutes ago, Skippy said:

Fuck that, I don’t care how good the new TA is meant to be that is one boring looking bike. Honda have out-done their sensible tag.

T700 could be an option!

Luis Contreras in Almeria has got a nice one!

[Pedro]

1 hour ago, Pedro said:

He knows shit!

Nothing gets thicker with heat except you and him!

will type properly later when not on the phone.

So @XTreme:

Viscosity is how thin or thick an oil is, like honey is thicker than olive oil when pouring out of a bottle. 10 would be olive oil, 60 would be honey. Weight in oils comes from a time when you couldn't engineer oils to be single weight, they would be a 10, a 20, etc, but all thicker cold than hot. Now they can engineer oils to act like a 10 when cold but act like a 30 or 40 or 50 when hot. 

The first number, 10W, means viscosity of 10 at W which means Winter, cold temperatures. A 10W30 and 10W40 will act the same at start up when the engine is cold at the same cold temperature.

Usually, a motorcycle manual will allow for weather and ambient temperatures, meaning the manufacturer might adjust advisement that the same engine will make oil run hotter being raced hard on 40º Spain than going for a bimble on 15º England, hence they sometimes recommend a 10W40 for 5º/20º temperatures but 20W50 for 15º/40º ambient temperatures.

If Honda says Loncin  makes that engine to be used with 10W30 in all uses in all temperatures, I would respect that. No modern engine benefits from using thicker oils than recomended except in very extreme conditions, however, do check if Honda doesn't recommend 10W40 for warm temperatures. It's a light engine, with tight clearances and meant to run with little internal frictions to aid economy and performance, makes sense that it uses a light oil. Does not make sense that it doesn't want a fully synthetic oil, though.