Saul Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, boboneleg said: I know, just been putting some roller blinds up for my daughter, with advice. I am ready to kill . Sorry Pete, buy any old shit you want if it makes you happy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, XTreme said: Compared to what? thought you was clued up on computers ... buying any old shit , what is wrong with you . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 57 minutes ago, Saul said: Well that's a chart that measures fuck all. What's the benchmark? what's the load? what's the task? Who did the test and when? Just a random set of numbers with no provenance, we can all make them up to serve our own bias. If you want a PC and it serves your needs fine, but Buckster is right buy a Mac, it will last longer than you will Performance vs Price! Benchmarks here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+5+5600G&id=4325 I'm sure the Mac will last longer......however by that point it will have the capability of running a very limited number of applications! Very, very slowly. I want the most bang for the buck now.......and replacing every 5 years is fine by me! After all, the Tax Man pays for it so why do I need to struggle along on EOL machines? Plus, my systems run 16 hours a day, 365 days of the year......so the workload is much higher than the average home user. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, XTreme said: Performance vs Price! Benchmarks here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+5+5600G&id=4325 I'm sure the Mac will last longer......however by that point it will have the capability of running a very limited number of applications! Very, very slowly. I want the most bang for the buck now.......and replacing every 5 years is fine by me! After all, the Tax Man pays for it so why do I need to struggle along on EOL machines? Plus, my systems run 16 hours a day, 365 days of the year......so the workload is much higher than the average home user. Batman doesn’t use mac, neither 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 The wife's new microwave just arrived! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, XTreme said: Performance vs Price! Benchmarks here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+5+5600G&id=4325 I'm sure the Mac will last longer......however by that point it will have the capability of running a very limited number of applications! Very, very slowly. I want the most bang for the buck now.......and replacing every 5 years is fine by me! After all, the Tax Man pays for it so why do I need to struggle along on EOL machines? Plus, my systems run 16 hours a day, 365 days of the year......so the workload is much higher than the average home user. I'm browsing on my 14 year old Macbook Pro as I type this with Youtube running in the background perfectly. It will run Garageband and iMovie, given not the latest releases but still functional and not slowly at all. On a 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo. I have tried patching it to run the Big Sur which did slow it down but went back to El Capitan and all is back to normal and plenty quick enough. Horses for Courses. If I want more grunt I can use my 2020, fanless M1 Macbook Air running Sonoma which is blindingly quick on all but the most intensive tasks. In fact the only thing that does slow it down, and only a little, is rendering video in iMove, on battery power. Try that on a PC Laptop and the fans will be intrusive and munch through the battery in no time. My 2018 Mac Mini, now on Sonoma, has been running pretty much non stop since I bought it, as has my Mrs 2014 Mac Mini. No Mac will crawl at 5 years old, unless you make really excessive demands on it. Now I am not pretending to run any sort of commercial software and you will get possibly get more bang for buck in the PC arena but it won't have anywhere near the longevity. Now of course tax deductible is great but unless you build a PC with the top notch components (which I have done several times) it won't last as long as a Mac and even then you will be on the upgrade path. Some off the shelf HP isn't in the same ballpark, just in my humble opinion. Now I have admitted I am a geek when it comes to tech, and I am starting to even bore myself writing all this, and I have deleted half of it. Having said all of the above enjoy your new PC on the Tax Man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, Saul said: Having said all of the above enjoy your new PC on the Tax Man. He's been good to me this year: €1K tax rebate, new phone, GoPro Hero 12 Black, and now a new PC! Unfortunately I can't swing it for a new bike! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pedro Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, XTreme said: Unfortunately I can't swing it for a new bike! Single most important reason seconded to how good the bikes are for their success in Portugal, is the bmw bank and the conditions to buy one on payments. I’m not one to do that on a bike but on the same monthly instalment you get on a cb750x you get an r1250gs, with full company car deductions! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 hours ago, XTreme said: Performance vs Price! Benchmarks here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+5+5600G&id=4325 I'm sure the Mac will last longer......however by that point it will have the capability of running a very limited number of applications! Very, very slowly. I want the most bang for the buck now.......and replacing every 5 years is fine by me! After all, the Tax Man pays for it so why do I need to struggle along on EOL machines? Plus, my systems run 16 hours a day, 365 days of the year......so the workload is much higher than the average home user. Unfortunately for you the benchmark tests do not tell the whole story, or in fact even 25% of the story as it only compares low complexity calculations, in real world tests the M2 is far superior, the AMD cannot use AI or machine learning unlike the Apple neural engine. All that and the M2 is classed as a mobile processor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 All I can say about macs is that my MacBook Air has been wedged on my sidecases for most of 50000km or more around Portugal and Morocco and does ok with that. Battery life isn’t the best as isn’t the wifi connection management but can’t ask more from it. I am not an IT guy, I want it to send emails and open the daily spreadsheet but if it dies midtrip that would be my business stopped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Pedro said: All I can say about macs is that my MacBook Air has been wedged on my sidecases for most of 50000km or more around Portugal and Morocco and does ok with that. Battery life isn’t the best as isn’t the wifi connection management but can’t ask more from it. I am not an IT guy, I want it to send emails and open the daily spreadsheet but if it dies midtrip that would be my business stopped. Is it an intel chip one? The M1 and M2 Macbook Airs have a solid 10 - 18 hour battery life, which is pretty close to the best you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, Saul said: Is it an intel chip one? The M1 and M2 Macbook Airs have a solid 10 - 18 hour battery life, which is pretty close to the best you can get. Don’t know which chip it is. Nowhere near 10 hours battery though, not anymore. The temperature extremes it’s been through have probably something to do with that. It’s on its second battery as well. I love it and will have another after it’s gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, Pedro said: Don’t know which chip it is. Nowhere near 10 hours battery though, not anymore. The temperature extremes it’s been through have probably something to do with that. It’s on its second battery as well. I love it and will have another after it’s gone. That is very possible with the heat.. If you want to find out which chip, click the apple in the top left hand corner of the screen, scroll down to About This Mac, should be the first option and it will tell you which chip,operating system and ram and other stuff. The M1 Macbook air came out in late 2020 so if yours predates that it will be intel and your wont have the potential 18 hour battery life. Should look something like this. Battery Medic doesn’t work well with the M1 but it is still accurate for battery life and my Air has 15 hours left on 92%. My Air is 3 years old now so it has deteriorated a little, max life I see now is around 16 hours, normally plenty to last a whole weekend at work without charging. Odie says Macs Rule. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I have a new M2 15” MacBook Air with 16gb RAM and 1TB unified memory, battery lasts about 20 hours and it processes video like it’s nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buckster said: I have a new M2 15” MacBook Air with 16gb RAM and 1TB unified memory, battery lasts about 20 hours and it processes video like it’s nothing. Very nice powerful bit of kit. I seriously thought about buying M3 Pro this year but chose to upgrade my phone instead. Maybe next year but if I’m honest the M1 is plenty for my needs and probably will be for years to come. Want and need are two very different things. Probably makes more sense to upgrade my Intel Mac Mini to an Apple silicon one first but again I don’t really need to. Problem I have is the females in the family squabbling over my cast offs and encouraging me to upgrade so they can have my current kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 In the Health Centre waiting to get the rest of the staples removed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 Stitches came out today! Can't see me back on the bike for a while cos I'm playing it safe! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, XTreme said: Stitches came out today! Can't see me back on the bike for a while cos I'm playing it safe! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Buckster said: Would a groin photo help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, XTreme said: Would a groin photo help? Thanks but no thanks we’re good 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Just been down town, thought we would go early to miss the pre Christmas rush, and.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 PC arrived......a day early. Setting it up tonight 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busabeast Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, Clive said: Just been down town, thought we would go early to miss the pre Christmas rush, and.................... Amazon is the way to go Clive.... they even wrap it for you so will win if you ask me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, busabeast said: Amazon is the way to go Clive.... they even wrap it for you so will win if you ask me I have no need of Amazon......we only went down town to collect wife's prescription. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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