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[Clive]

9 hours ago, Pedro said:

That's probably what I meant. Except involving just the heads done and not the pistons.

In the 1960,s, and 1970,s, in the era of crap engines, crap petrol and inefficient ignition systems a De Coke was almost basis maintenance.

My dad did his cars at 50,000 miles, took the head off, De Coke the head and valves too, and lap them in again, and clean the piston crowns, but on those cars it was easy to do, and only took a couple of hours to complete. 

[Saul]

1 hour ago, Clive said:

In the 1960,s, and 1970,s, in the era of crap engines, crap petrol and inefficient ignition systems a De Coke was almost basis maintenance.

My dad did his cars at 50,000 miles, took the head off, De Coke the head and valves too, and lap them in again, and clean the piston crowns, but on those cars it was easy to do, and only took a couple of hours to complete. 

I remember my Dad doing that to his 850 Mini Van.    There was a noticeable improvement afterwards 

[Clive]

1 minute ago, Saul said:

I remember my Dad doing that to his 850 Mini Van.    There was a noticeable improvement afterwards 

As said, on the OHV engines it was very easy to do, and as you say, they benefitted from the procedure, but many other things were easy (with some mechanical knowledge) to do, plenty of room in the engine bay to work, clutch replacement was a couple of hours job on rear wheel drive cars......I once had to scrap a Ford Mondeo (it was old and battered anywsy) I found out it was a Dual Mass clutch (expensive at the time) and only way to replace it was to remove the engine and gearbox in 1 unit, I had neither the tools or facilities to do it, so scrapped it and bought another banger. 

[Saul]

1 minute ago, Clive said:

As said, on the OHV engines it was very easy to do, and as you say, they benefitted from the procedure, but many other things were easy (with some mechanical knowledge) to do, plenty of room in the engine bay to work, clutch replacement was a couple of hours job on rear wheel drive cars......I once had to scrap a Ford Mondeo (it was old and battered anywsy) I found out it was a Dual Mass clutch (expensive at the time) and only way to replace it was to remove the engine and gearbox in 1 unit, I had neither the tools or facilities to do it, so scrapped it and bought another banger. 

Yeah I grew up in a bangernomics household.  My Dad always bought crap cars but always managed to keep them going until they practically dissolved.   It was only in his 50's that he actually bought some decent cars  as he just couldn't be arsed with make do and mend anymore.  Plus things were getting more and more complicated.    I'm afraid that's where I am now, I don't want a project bike ever again I just want to press the button and ride.  I don't mind servicing but that's about it now.   

[Six30]

11 hours ago, Pedro said:

That's probably what I meant. Except involving just the heads done and not the pistons.

trade it in ..get a van

[Clive]

@Saul... It was not till the wife won the Postcode lottery that we got a new ish (3 year old Dacia) car, apart from a couple of company cars in the 1990.s, the Dacia is now 13 years old, so I am back to owning a banger again.  

How much longer will I have the Dacia it depends how much the VED costs next year, I keep hearing of horror stories that it may double in price  

I don't want (another ) project bike, maybe a 125cc Chinky to tinker with.