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5 hours ago, boboneleg said:

I get 'feelings' in my three little toes nearly all the time .  I get pains in my heel from time to time but the worst are the big bangers (that I'm getting now) in the arch of my foot.  At the moment these have lasted four days so I'm really hoping they'll stop soon.  I can still feel my big toe now , 22 years later and that can be a bugger as well.

Not a joke, but have you tried closing your eyes and pretend to massage your non existing foot?

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2 minutes ago, Pedro said:

Not a joke, but have you tried closing your eyes and pretend to massage your non existing foot?

Yep, that was one of the exercises in the hypnosis therapy.  Last night I was massaging my actual stump  (no laughing at the back) but it didn't help.

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6 hours ago, boboneleg said:

That's the real conundrum @Six30  It's bloody annoying when you're getting this pain in a part of your body which just isn't there.  There are loads of studies into the phenomenon but nobody really understands it.

If you go to your doctor they will usually prescribe you something that is used for peeps that have epilepsy .  I have tried all sorts over the years including Gabapentin, Tramadol, Citalopram and others but all these drugs have side affects . About 15 years ago I even tried Hypnosis and even acupuncture but none of it has worked.

 

I bet there's some twat with your lower left leg in a freezer and every now and again thaws it out to stick needles in it lol.

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6 minutes ago, Sir Fallsalot said:

I bet there's some twat with your lower left leg in a freezer and every now and again thaws it out to stick needles in it lol.

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1 hour ago, Sir Fallsalot said:

I bet there's some twat with your lower left leg in a freezer and every now and again thaws it out to stick needles in it lol.

Guess Frankengroin will start on about phantom pains in his missing appendage soon

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2 hours ago, boboneleg said:

Yep, that was one of the exercises in the hypnosis therapy.  Last night I was massaging my actual stump  (no laughing at the back) but it didn't help.

I'd have thought it would have diverted your attention from the pain

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3 minutes ago, busabeast said:

Guess Frankengroin will start on about phantom pains in his missing appendage soon

They don't remove anything with a Hernia......they push everything back in.

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7 minutes ago, XTreme said:

They don't remove anything with a Hernia......they push everything back in.

That's what they told you, some are sure you were in the wrong operating theater and have been given an axe wound 

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3 hours ago, boboneleg said:

Yep, that was one of the exercises in the hypnosis therapy.  Last night I was massaging my actual stump  (no laughing at the back) but it didn't help.

been thinking about this , if you whack your thumb with a hammer it hurts .. or does it , is pain just a mental thing ?

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24 minutes ago, Six30 said:

been thinking about this , if you whack your thumb with a hammer it hurts .. or does it , is pain just a mental thing ?

Hmmmmmmmmmm, pain only signals itself to your body because of nerves.  Unfortunately I made a bit of a mess of my leg so nerves were all over the place .  They also try to grow again and because they have nowhere to go in my leg they grow a sort of fuzzy ball on the ends , those nerves start to touch bones, muscles etc and send pain out.  The idea behind taking away the main nerve at the back of my knee in my last surgery is it would eliminate that but for whatever reason it hasn't worked.

So the one they took away from me was the common peroneal nerve 

 

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I'm not going to bore you anymore with this stuff but here's some info if you want to read it.

 

 

 

What phantom pain feels like

The sensation of phantom pain can vary widely. Depending on the person, it might involve:

throbbing

tingling or pins and needles

burning

sharp pain, like shooting or stabbing

cramping

sensations that feel like electric shocks

Causes of phantom pain

The exact cause of phantom pain is unclear, but it’s thought to be related to:

Nerve damage

The removal of a body part causes damage to peripheral nerves. This can irritate and overexcite the nerve endings, causing spontaneous sensations.

Central sensitization

Your peripheral nerves lead to your spinal nerves, which are connected to your spinal cord.

When a peripheral nerve is damaged during amputation or injury, central sensitization may occur. This involves increased neural activity and sensitivity in the spinal cord, resulting in phantom pain.

Brain remapping

After a body part is removed, the brain redirects sensations from that part to another area of the body. This is called remapping or reorganization.

As a result, you may feel pain in the missing body part when the nerves are stimulated in the surrounding area.

Psychological factors

In some cases, certain psychological conditions can trigger or contribute to phantom pain. These factors include:

depression

anxiety

increased stress

How is phantom pain treated?

Phantom pain may go away on its own after several months. But if the pain persists, there are several treatment options:

Medications

The following medications are used to manage phantom pain:

tricyclic antidepressants (most common)

opioids

nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs

anticonvulsants

NMDA receptor antagonists

Medical treatment

Some medical therapies might also manage phantom pain:

Transcutaneous nerve stimulation. This treatment, known as TENS, stimulates nerves using electrical currents.

Central nervous system stimulation. In this treatment, electrical signals stimulate the brain or spinal cord via implanted electrodes.

Biofeedback. In biofeedback, electrodes are placed near the affected area. A specialist will teach you how to control certain functions in the area.

Other therapies for phantom pain

In addition to medication and medical treatments, the following therapies may be used:

Acupuncture. Acupuncture uses thin needles to stimulate certain areas of the body. Research on its benefits for phantom pain is still ongoing.

Massage. Massaging the affected area may help relieve muscle tension. It’s also useful for managing stress and anxiety.

Mirror therapy. This therapy may be helpful for certain types of phantom pain, including phantom limb pain. It uses a mirror box to reflect the healthy limb onto the amputated side, which tricks the brain.

 

 

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, boboneleg said:

Hmmmmmmmmmm, pain only signals itself to your body because of nerves.  Unfortunately I made a bit of a mess of my leg so nerves were all over the place .  They also try to grow again and because they have nowhere to go in my leg they grow a sort of fuzzy ball on the ends , those nerves start to touch bones, muscles etc and send pain out.  The idea behind taking away the main nerve at the back of my knee in my last surgery is it would eliminate that but for whatever reason it hasn't worked.

So the one they took away from me was the common peroneal nerve 

 

Lower-limb-nerves.thumb.jpg.559c4340620a4a4d6f27489418a31a0d.jpg

 

I'm not going to bore you anymore with this stuff but here's some info if you want to read it.

 

 

 

What phantom pain feels like

The sensation of phantom pain can vary widely. Depending on the person, it might involve:

throbbing

tingling or pins and needles

burning

sharp pain, like shooting or stabbing

cramping

sensations that feel like electric shocks

Causes of phantom pain

The exact cause of phantom pain is unclear, but it’s thought to be related to:

Nerve damage

The removal of a body part causes damage to peripheral nerves. This can irritate and overexcite the nerve endings, causing spontaneous sensations.

Central sensitization

Your peripheral nerves lead to your spinal nerves, which are connected to your spinal cord.

When a peripheral nerve is damaged during amputation or injury, central sensitization may occur. This involves increased neural activity and sensitivity in the spinal cord, resulting in phantom pain.

Brain remapping

After a body part is removed, the brain redirects sensations from that part to another area of the body. This is called remapping or reorganization.

As a result, you may feel pain in the missing body part when the nerves are stimulated in the surrounding area.

Psychological factors

In some cases, certain psychological conditions can trigger or contribute to phantom pain. These factors include:

depression

anxiety

increased stress

How is phantom pain treated?

Phantom pain may go away on its own after several months. But if the pain persists, there are several treatment options:

Medications

The following medications are used to manage phantom pain:

tricyclic antidepressants (most common)

opioids

nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs

anticonvulsants

NMDA receptor antagonists

Medical treatment

Some medical therapies might also manage phantom pain:

Transcutaneous nerve stimulation. This treatment, known as TENS, stimulates nerves using electrical currents.

Central nervous system stimulation. In this treatment, electrical signals stimulate the brain or spinal cord via implanted electrodes.

Biofeedback. In biofeedback, electrodes are placed near the affected area. A specialist will teach you how to control certain functions in the area.

Other therapies for phantom pain

In addition to medication and medical treatments, the following therapies may be used:

Acupuncture. Acupuncture uses thin needles to stimulate certain areas of the body. Research on its benefits for phantom pain is still ongoing.

Massage. Massaging the affected area may help relieve muscle tension. It’s also useful for managing stress and anxiety.

Mirror therapy. This therapy may be helpful for certain types of phantom pain, including phantom limb pain. It uses a mirror box to reflect the healthy limb onto the amputated side, which tricks the brain.

 

 

 

 

 

makes more sense now you said about the nerves

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42 minutes ago, boboneleg said:

Hmmmmmmmmmm, pain only signals itself to your body because of nerves.  Unfortunately I made a bit of a mess of my leg so nerves were all over the place .  They also try to grow again and because they have nowhere to go in my leg they grow a sort of fuzzy ball on the ends , those nerves start to touch bones, muscles etc and send pain out.  The idea behind taking away the main nerve at the back of my knee in my last surgery is it would eliminate that but for whatever reason it hasn't worked.

So the one they took away from me was the common peroneal nerve 

 

Lower-limb-nerves.thumb.jpg.559c4340620a4a4d6f27489418a31a0d.jpg

 

I'm not going to bore you anymore with this stuff but here's some info if you want to read it.

 

 

 

What phantom pain feels like

The sensation of phantom pain can vary widely. Depending on the person, it might involve:

throbbing

tingling or pins and needles

burning

sharp pain, like shooting or stabbing

cramping

sensations that feel like electric shocks

Causes of phantom pain

The exact cause of phantom pain is unclear, but it’s thought to be related to:

Nerve damage

The removal of a body part causes damage to peripheral nerves. This can irritate and overexcite the nerve endings, causing spontaneous sensations.

Central sensitization

Your peripheral nerves lead to your spinal nerves, which are connected to your spinal cord.

When a peripheral nerve is damaged during amputation or injury, central sensitization may occur. This involves increased neural activity and sensitivity in the spinal cord, resulting in phantom pain.

Brain remapping

After a body part is removed, the brain redirects sensations from that part to another area of the body. This is called remapping or reorganization.

As a result, you may feel pain in the missing body part when the nerves are stimulated in the surrounding area.

Psychological factors

In some cases, certain psychological conditions can trigger or contribute to phantom pain. These factors include:

depression

anxiety

increased stress

How is phantom pain treated?

Phantom pain may go away on its own after several months. But if the pain persists, there are several treatment options:

Medications

The following medications are used to manage phantom pain:

tricyclic antidepressants (most common)

opioids

nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs

anticonvulsants

NMDA receptor antagonists

Medical treatment

Some medical therapies might also manage phantom pain:

Transcutaneous nerve stimulation. This treatment, known as TENS, stimulates nerves using electrical currents.

Central nervous system stimulation. In this treatment, electrical signals stimulate the brain or spinal cord via implanted electrodes.

Biofeedback. In biofeedback, electrodes are placed near the affected area. A specialist will teach you how to control certain functions in the area.

Other therapies for phantom pain

In addition to medication and medical treatments, the following therapies may be used:

Acupuncture. Acupuncture uses thin needles to stimulate certain areas of the body. Research on its benefits for phantom pain is still ongoing.

Massage. Massaging the affected area may help relieve muscle tension. It’s also useful for managing stress and anxiety.

Mirror therapy. This therapy may be helpful for certain types of phantom pain, including phantom limb pain. It uses a mirror box to reflect the healthy limb onto the amputated side, which tricks the brain.

 

 

 

 

 

It sucks that you’re going through that Bob

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4 hours ago, boboneleg said:

Hmmmmmmmmmm, pain only signals itself to your body because of nerves.  Unfortunately I made a bit of a mess of my leg so nerves were all over the place .  They also try to grow again and because they have nowhere to go in my leg they grow a sort of fuzzy ball on the ends , those nerves start to touch bones, muscles etc and send pain out.  The idea behind taking away the main nerve at the back of my knee in my last surgery is it would eliminate that but for whatever reason it hasn't worked.

So the one they took away from me was the common peroneal nerve 

 

Lower-limb-nerves.thumb.jpg.559c4340620a4a4d6f27489418a31a0d.jpg

 

I'm not going to bore you anymore with this stuff but here's some info if you want to read it.

 

 

 

What phantom pain feels like

The sensation of phantom pain can vary widely. Depending on the person, it might involve:

throbbing

tingling or pins and needles

burning

sharp pain, like shooting or stabbing

cramping

sensations that feel like electric shocks

Causes of phantom pain

The exact cause of phantom pain is unclear, but it’s thought to be related to:

Nerve damage

The removal of a body part causes damage to peripheral nerves. This can irritate and overexcite the nerve endings, causing spontaneous sensations.

Central sensitization

Your peripheral nerves lead to your spinal nerves, which are connected to your spinal cord.

When a peripheral nerve is damaged during amputation or injury, central sensitization may occur. This involves increased neural activity and sensitivity in the spinal cord, resulting in phantom pain.

Brain remapping

After a body part is removed, the brain redirects sensations from that part to another area of the body. This is called remapping or reorganization.

As a result, you may feel pain in the missing body part when the nerves are stimulated in the surrounding area.

Psychological factors

In some cases, certain psychological conditions can trigger or contribute to phantom pain. These factors include:

depression

anxiety

increased stress

How is phantom pain treated?

Phantom pain may go away on its own after several months. But if the pain persists, there are several treatment options:

Medications

The following medications are used to manage phantom pain:

tricyclic antidepressants (most common)

opioids

nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs

anticonvulsants

NMDA receptor antagonists

Medical treatment

Some medical therapies might also manage phantom pain:

Transcutaneous nerve stimulation. This treatment, known as TENS, stimulates nerves using electrical currents.

Central nervous system stimulation. In this treatment, electrical signals stimulate the brain or spinal cord via implanted electrodes.

Biofeedback. In biofeedback, electrodes are placed near the affected area. A specialist will teach you how to control certain functions in the area.

Other therapies for phantom pain

In addition to medication and medical treatments, the following therapies may be used:

Acupuncture. Acupuncture uses thin needles to stimulate certain areas of the body. Research on its benefits for phantom pain is still ongoing.

Massage. Massaging the affected area may help relieve muscle tension. It’s also useful for managing stress and anxiety.

Mirror therapy. This therapy may be helpful for certain types of phantom pain, including phantom limb pain. It uses a mirror box to reflect the healthy limb onto the amputated side, which tricks the brain.

 

 

 

 

 

Man Bob, I can really relate to this....I still can feel my wrist, & all my fingers...stuffed inside my stump. I've woke up before with my stump feeling like I'm still riding....twisting the throttle, operating the brake, etc. Then there's other times when I feel nothing but stabbing needle-type pains in all 4 limbs...no clue why?

I guess it boils down to being a human anomaly my whole life..... a.k.a. "Walking Scar"NewDigits.thumb.jpg.641b3b5628aedb36a4c2b205aadbdbed.jpg

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Hands are much harder to deal with imo Scott, I'm in awe of how you just keep on doing what you're doing .  Is there any prospect of you getting a bionic arm or does your hook work well enough for you ?

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6 hours ago, YamaHead said:

Man Bob, I can really relate to this....I still can feel my wrist, & all my fingers...stuffed inside my stump. I've woke up before with my stump feeling like I'm still riding....twisting the throttle, operating the brake, etc. Then there's other times when I feel nothing but stabbing needle-type pains in all 4 limbs...no clue why?

I guess it boils down to being a human anomaly my whole life..... a.k.a. "Walking Scar"NewDigits.thumb.jpg.641b3b5628aedb36a4c2b205aadbdbed.jpg

Was that all MRSA?

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1 hour ago, boboneleg said:

Hands are much harder to deal with imo Scott, I'm in awe of how you just keep on doing what you're doing .  Is there any prospect of you getting a bionic arm or does your hook work well enough for you ?

Before I even got outta the hospital, I was quoted a bionic arm....for $75k! But as it turns out, Insurance paid for my current prosthetic/hook...ended up breaking the original alum. hook 4 times rebuilding a 5ltr. V8 that I put in my old truck. So I ponied up $345 for the current stainless steel hook, which works pretty well for most everything. 

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1 hour ago, Buckster said:

Was that all MRSA?

Yes sir....might I also mention that MRSA took all my toes as well....just can't see the evidence in that pic due to the shoes on my feet.

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11 minutes ago, YamaHead said:

Yes sir....might I also mention that MRSA took all my toes as well....just can't see the evidence in that pic due to the shoes on my feet.

Did it take the mullet as well Scott? :classic_laugh:

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30 minutes ago, XTreme said:

Did it take the mullet as well Scott? :classic_laugh:

The mullet went bye-bye when my my oldest boy passed away....it's a native America thing. His birthday was yesterday....he woulda been 44y/o.

But just to "dangle the carrot" in front of you Pete.....there could possibly be a new mullet in this old fart's life....stay tuned.😉

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