Hugh Janus Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Rumors from Japan prompted AutoBy Magazine to mock up what it believes the next CBR1000RR-R will look like. (AutoBy Magazine/)A couple of decades ago it was the norm for Japan’s top superbikes to be revised every other year as they fought for supremacy in both the showroom and on the track. That trend has tailed off as the liter sportbike market has shrunk and customers have switched to other styles of motorcycles, but Honda appears to have revived the idea with its latest CBR1000RR as the latest Japanese rumors say there’s a revamped model coming for 2024.The current shape CBR arrived for the 2020 model year along with the addition of an extra “R” in its name, becoming the CBR1000RR-R to set it aside from the previous model, which currently remains on the market alongside its replacement. Despite being a clean-sheet design, with a 214 hp engine, new chassis, and winglet-equipped aerodynamics, the 2020 model didn’t meet Honda’s expectations. Far from leapfrogging its rivals to the front of the WSBK grid, it struggled, even with Álvaro Bautista as lead rider in its first year. For 2022, Honda introduced substantial under-the-skin updates to the production model including revisions to the compression ratio, airbox, intake funnels, and ports in an effort to turn those fortunes around.The late Nicky Hayden was the last Honda rider to take a victory in World Superbike back in 2016.The race results in WSBK haven’t improved though. It’s hard to believe, but Honda hasn’t won a single race in the series since 2016, when the late Nicky Hayden took his last career victory in a wet Race 2 in the Malaysian World Superbike round at the Sepang International circuit. During the current decade, Ducati, Kawasaki, Yamaha, and BMW have all had bikes on the top step of the podium, but Honda has rarely even managed to get onto the lowest one. With Honda suffering a similarly uncharacteristic slump in MotoGP it’s easy to imagine how keen the company is to return to the winning ways that it’s grown used to over the last few decades, and in doing so encourage a few more customers to opt for the big CBR instead of its rivals.Aftermarket company Puig Hi-Tech Parts produces bolt-on winglets for the current CBR1000RR. (Puig Hi-Tech Parts /)Power doesn’t appear to be Honda’s problem, and the latest Japanese rumors have the focus of the 2024 updates being visual and aerodynamic, with substantially larger front winglets for both the streetbikes and their racing counterparts. The current CBR1000RR-R’s multilayered side winglets, with a trio of stubby wing profiles inside enclosed channels on either side of the fairing, haven’t been copied by many rivals, and this year’s Ducati domination of the World Superbike series suggests the Italian firm’s solution—the much wider, biplane-style winglets of the Panigale V4 R—are the direction to take.In Japan, AutoBy magazine has mocked up how it believes the next-gen CBR1000RR-R will look, with larger wings, revised tail bodywork, and a new exhaust. The design is not far from the style that can already be attained for the CBR1000RR-R by adding extended, aftermarket winglets designed by Puig Hi-Tech Parts. Puig (no relation to Alberto Puig) also has a technical partnership with HRC and the Repsol Honda MotoGP team, and says its extended winglets offer around 17 pounds of downforce on the front axle at 186 mph.A frontal view of a CBR1000RR equipped with Puig aftermarket winglets. (Puig Hi-Tech Parts /)As long ago as 2019 we revealed that Honda originally had ideas to make the 2020-on CBR’s winglets actively adjustable, with blades that extended or retracted automatically via servo motors and Bowden cables depending on whether downforce was needed or not. That idea was clearly not adopted but it might have influenced the decision to go with the narrow, enclosed, multi-bladed winglets rather than the more conventional, wide versions seen on most MotoGP bikes and the Panigale V4 R. While active aerodynamics are banned in MotoGP, WSBK rules specifically allow them, but only if they’re standard parts on the original, road-going model. So far, no manufacturer has taken that route.The current Japanese rumors hint that Honda isn’t revisiting the idea of active aero, but instead simply looking at introducing much larger winglets to increase downforce. Road-bike design is essential here, as the WSBK regulations say: “Wings and other aerodynamic aids will only be considered legal if originally fitted to the homologated road specification machine in all of Europe, Asia, and North America. For race use the wings must follow the dimensions, profiles, and positions of the homologated shapes exactly (+/-1 mm).” Bigger wings for the streetbike is the sole way to make the same change on the WSBK racer, so the rumored aerodynamic updates for the 2024 Fireblade are a logical step if Honda isn’t to spend another year languishing behind its rivals.Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 are they going to add more R's so it will be even more of a mouthful CBR1000RR-R-RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catteeclan Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Sir Fallsalot said: are they going to add more R's so it will be even more of a mouthful CBR1000RR-R-RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR The choice of pirates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 15 hours ago, Hugh Janus said: Rumors from Japan prompted AutoBy Magazine to mock up what it believes the next CBR1000RR-R will look like. (AutoBy Magazine/) A couple of decades ago it was the norm for Japan’s top superbikes to be revised every other year as they fought for supremacy in both the showroom and on the track. That trend has tailed off as the liter sportbike market has shrunk and customers have switched to other styles of motorcycles, but Honda appears to have revived the idea with its latest CBR1000RR as the latest Japanese rumors say there’s a revamped model coming for 2024. The current shape CBR arrived for the 2020 model year along with the addition of an extra “R” in its name, becoming the CBR1000RR-R to set it aside from the previous model, which currently remains on the market alongside its replacement. Despite being a clean-sheet design, with a 214 hp engine, new chassis, and winglet-equipped aerodynamics, the 2020 model didn’t meet Honda’s expectations. Far from leapfrogging its rivals to the front of the WSBK grid, it struggled, even with Álvaro Bautista as lead rider in its first year. For 2022, Honda introduced substantial under-the-skin updates to the production model including revisions to the compression ratio, airbox, intake funnels, and ports in an effort to turn those fortunes around. The late Nicky Hayden was the last Honda rider to take a victory in World Superbike back in 2016. The race results in WSBK haven’t improved though. It’s hard to believe, but Honda hasn’t won a single race in the series since 2016, when the late Nicky Hayden took his last career victory in a wet Race 2 in the Malaysian World Superbike round at the Sepang International circuit. During the current decade, Ducati, Kawasaki, Yamaha, and BMW have all had bikes on the top step of the podium, but Honda has rarely even managed to get onto the lowest one. With Honda suffering a similarly uncharacteristic slump in MotoGP it’s easy to imagine how keen the company is to return to the winning ways that it’s grown used to over the last few decades, and in doing so encourage a few more customers to opt for the big CBR instead of its rivals. Aftermarket company Puig Hi-Tech Parts produces bolt-on winglets for the current CBR1000RR. (Puig Hi-Tech Parts /) Power doesn’t appear to be Honda’s problem, and the latest Japanese rumors have the focus of the 2024 updates being visual and aerodynamic, with substantially larger front winglets for both the streetbikes and their racing counterparts. The current CBR1000RR-R’s multilayered side winglets, with a trio of stubby wing profiles inside enclosed channels on either side of the fairing, haven’t been copied by many rivals, and this year’s Ducati domination of the World Superbike series suggests the Italian firm’s solution—the much wider, biplane-style winglets of the Panigale V4 R—are the direction to take. In Japan, AutoBy magazine has mocked up how it believes the next-gen CBR1000RR-R will look, with larger wings, revised tail bodywork, and a new exhaust. The design is not far from the style that can already be attained for the CBR1000RR-R by adding extended, aftermarket winglets designed by Puig Hi-Tech Parts. Puig (no relation to Alberto Puig) also has a technical partnership with HRC and the Repsol Honda MotoGP team, and says its extended winglets offer around 17 pounds of downforce on the front axle at 186 mph. A frontal view of a CBR1000RR equipped with Puig aftermarket winglets. (Puig Hi-Tech Parts /) As long ago as 2019 we revealed that Honda originally had ideas to make the 2020-on CBR’s winglets actively adjustable, with blades that extended or retracted automatically via servo motors and Bowden cables depending on whether downforce was needed or not. That idea was clearly not adopted but it might have influenced the decision to go with the narrow, enclosed, multi-bladed winglets rather than the more conventional, wide versions seen on most MotoGP bikes and the Panigale V4 R. While active aerodynamics are banned in MotoGP, WSBK rules specifically allow them, but only if they’re standard parts on the original, road-going model. So far, no manufacturer has taken that route. The current Japanese rumors hint that Honda isn’t revisiting the idea of active aero, but instead simply looking at introducing much larger winglets to increase downforce. Road-bike design is essential here, as the WSBK regulations say: “Wings and other aerodynamic aids will only be considered legal if originally fitted to the homologated road specification machine in all of Europe, Asia, and North America. For race use the wings must follow the dimensions, profiles, and positions of the homologated shapes exactly (+/-1 mm).” Bigger wings for the streetbike is the sole way to make the same change on the WSBK racer, so the rumored aerodynamic updates for the 2024 Fireblade are a logical step if Honda isn’t to spend another year languishing behind its rivals. Source do they really need those things on a road bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 On 13/07/2023 at 12:25, skyrider said: do they really need those things on a road bike I wouldn’t buy a new bike that didn’t have winglets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 56 minutes ago, Buckster said: I wouldn’t buy a new bike that didn’t have winglets. You can buy them on eBay , perhaps you could attatch some to your trailer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 48 minutes ago, boboneleg said: You can buy them on eBay , perhaps you could attatch some to your trailer I just ordered a spoiler for it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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