XTreme Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 It's now being relaunched as the NX500! I like the look of that! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Why ?? the Honda NX range of bikes were always single cylinder in the past 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 12:51, boboneleg said: Why ?? the Honda NX range of bikes were always single cylinder in the past Expand I think they want to distance the X from the CB budget range and hike the prices up. It's only 100 quid more at the moment apparently, but when you bear in mind that the Strom has now been discounted down into that ballpark the NX is not going to be an easy sell. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Maybe heading to be more of a smaller Transalp than a trail CB? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 13:54, Pedro said: Maybe heading to be more of a smaller Transalp than a trail CB? Expand That's the direction it's heading.....cos the original in 2013 was a road bike with 17" wheels. In 2019 they came with 19" wheels and the styling changed to more of an AT look! Then from 2021 onwards they came with double disc and USD forks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 13:38, XTreme said: I think they want to distance the X from the CB budget range and hike the prices up. It's only 100 quid more at the moment apparently, but when you bear in mind that the Strom has now been discounted down into that ballpark the NX is not going to be an easy sell. Expand The salesman at Damerells told me a similar story about the CB500 Hornet due out as well. He reckoned it was a facelift and more tech stuff but basically the same bike. The 650 Strom is a real bargain at the moment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 15:05, Saul said: The 650 Strom is a real bargain at the moment. Expand What are they selling for over there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 15:13, XTreme said: What are they selling for over there? Expand I have seen them between 6600 and and 6999 for new in stock ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 15:25, Saul said: I have seen them between 6600 and and 6999 for new in stock ones. Expand To put that into perspective I paid £5400 otr back in early 2005 for a new one! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Sure is a helluvalot of bike for £7000. I seriously thought about one, makes a lot of sense to buy and keep. It was just to heavy and tall for my stumpy legs. Plus I wanted a Hornet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 15:41, Saul said: Sure is a helluvalot of bike for £7000. I seriously thought about one, makes a lot of sense to buy and keep. It was just to heavy and tall for my stumpy legs. Plus I wanted a Hornet. Expand That's the only drawback with the Strom......the weight! And it's very top heavy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 At the risk of sounding like you Pete it's a heavy lump for a 500 no matter how well it carries it this is what they say about the weight The already lightweight package now weighs in a total of 3kg less than before, at a total of 196kg. Who or what the hell are they comparing it to to think its already a lightweight package, in my head a 500cc bike should be a lot lighter than that with modern technology and materials 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catteeclan Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 17:40, Sir Fallsalot said: At the risk of sounding like you Pete it's a heavy lump for a 500 no matter haw well it carries it this is what they say about the weight The already lightweight package now weighs in a total of 3kg less than before, at a total of 196kg. Who or what the hell are they comparing it to to think its already a lightweight package, in my head a 500cc bike should be a lot lighter than that with modern technology and materials Expand Crikey, my TDM has a dry weight of 190kg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 17:40, Sir Fallsalot said: At the risk of sounding like you Pete it's a heavy lump for a 500 no matter haw well it carries it this is what they say about the weight The already lightweight package now weighs in a total of 3kg less than before, at a total of 196kg. Who or what the hell are they comparing it to to think its already a lightweight package, in my head a 500cc bike should be a lot lighter than that with modern technology and materials Expand You think back to the early days on MB and I never mentioned weight......because it wasn't a consideration in my early 50's. Never even thought about it. But fast forward to today and I'm now nudging 70......things are different. I've aged, and there's no way to turn the clock back. You'll notice this more as the years go on! Some of these old, shorter guys on things like GS's don't seem to want to accept the reality of getting older and having to adjust our expectations accordingly. Too busy putting on a show of being serious motorcyclists I imagine! They don't look too serious to me as they waddle around trying to manoeuvre those heavy bikes at walking pace. I just get on mine and turn it on a sixpence......cos I'm not into making my life difficult just to make a fashion statement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 18:27, Catteeclan said: Crikey, my TDM has a dry weight of 190kg. Expand About 225kg fully fuelled! Heavier than a Strom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 It definitely got looks like an old mans bike. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busabeast Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 That's what I like about my busa yes it's 265kg but it's nice and low slung, it doesn't feel its a ¼ of a ton And the road holding is very good and predictable especially with the PR6GT front tyre, it grips the road in the wet as if in the dry 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 21:03, busabeast said: That's what I like about my busa yes it's 265kg but it's nice and low slung, it doesn't feel its a ¼ of a ton And the road holding is very good and predictable especially with the PR6GT front tyre, it grips the road in the wet as if in the dry Expand Yes and that has an engine to haul it's ass around and needs to be built that way, i just don't get why a small engine bike is so heavy when it's clear they can be made lighter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 22:41, Sir Fallsalot said: Yes and that has an engine to haul it's ass around and needs to be built that way, i just don't get why a small engine bike is so heavy when it's clear they can be made lighter Expand Honda sells good value bikes, that's why. Considering the price of building raw materials today, they're selling more metal for the money. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 22:46, Pedro said: Honda sells good value bikes Expand They're a lot more competitive on pricing now......cos Hondas always sold at a premium price! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catteeclan Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 18:37, XTreme said: About 225kg fully fuelled! Heavier than a Strom. Expand Got that from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 22:48, XTreme said: They're a lot more competitive on pricing now......cos Hondas always sold at a premium price! Expand Not compared to Yamaha (at least in the UK), they're more competitive now but it the past they've priced themsleves out of the market here. The WR250R is a perfect example of that and there are others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Gay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 On 09/11/2023 at 09:10, Buckster said: Gay. Expand Yes we already know you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 On 09/11/2023 at 10:07, XTreme said: Yes we already know you are! Expand Did his boyfriends tell you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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