Buckster Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Time for a major service and will replace the compensator as it is getting noisy, it’s a wear part but has done well to get to nearly 60k miles, Harley have changed the design but I have splashed out on a Dark Horse Motorsprocket that can be serviced indefinitely for about £30 every 20k miles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catteeclan Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Catteeclan said: Pics? There will be some tomorrow, I’m currently machining the flange on the inner primary case so I can remove the stator in future without removing the inner primary. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 50 minutes ago, Marcel le Moose Fondler said: Will you be using LGBT parts ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busabeast Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 7 hours ago, Buckster said: Time for a major service and will replace the compensator as it is getting noisy, it’s a wear part but has done well to get to nearly 60k miles, Harley have changed the design but I have splashed out on a Dark Horse Motorsprocket that can be serviced indefinitely for about £30 every 20k miles. the compensator..... sounds like a euphemism 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 11 minutes ago, Marcel le Moose Fondler said: What's the millage on your bike Buckster ? Retard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Marcel le Moose Fondler said: 96 thousand km...doesn't seem like high miles for a failing compensator...first things to let go on those cam bearing chain..have you done those already ? Mine has hydraulic tensioners. As usual you are wrong on all counts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 9 hours ago, Marcel le Moose Fondler said: What's the millage on your bike Buckster ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 So here we go. The original setup. Despite what Marcel le manchild says, 60k is good going for the original compensator on this model year, the compensator is the cog on the left. Pre 2006 compensators last a lot longer as do post 2013although the standard self racheting primary chain adjuster can be a problem, as you may see i fitted a Hayden M6 tensioner many moons ago which may be why mine has lasted so well. On inspection there was not a lot of wear on the compensator except for the peaks but the belville spring basket was pretty well shot, this is why it was noisy and i was getting vibration. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 All new compensators require a new stator as the basket for the belville spring is welded to the old one. This being the weakness all newer types use a different system. I went for a Dark Horse motorsprocket as they are regarded as the best plus they will survive performance upgrades which I will do in the future. The inner primary case has a cast lip on the inside which prevents removal of the stator without removing the inner primary, I decided to grind this lip off as many others have done as it makes ongoing servicing of the alternator a lot easier. Here we are with the original stator removed. With the new one fitted. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 At this point I checked the crank runout, Dark Horse recommend a maximum of .008 of an inch, although that is with the original chain tensioner, mine is .006 so all good either way. I also had the check alignment in case any shims were needed, alignment was perfect without shims. So I put it back together. Ain't it pretty? I will put the case back on in the morning. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Is this where you ground the lip out ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 49 minutes ago, Buckster said: So here we go. The original setup. Despite what Marcel le manchild says, 60k is good going for the original compensator on this model year, the compensator is the cog on the left. Pre 2006 compensators last a lot longer as do post 2013although the standard self racheting primary chain adjuster can be a problem, as you may see i fitted a Hayden M6 tensioner many moons ago which may be why mine has lasted so well. On inspection there was not a lot of wear on the compensator except for the peaks but the belville spring basket was pretty well shot, this is why it was noisy and i was getting vibration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 3 hours ago, Buckster said: Ain't it pretty? It is very pretty. And very cool, if my alternator goes it’ll be open heart surgery to replace it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 2 hours ago, boboneleg said: Is this where you ground the lip out ? How did you guess? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catteeclan Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Is there only springs in the old and new compensator? Prob better than the dual mass fly wheels they're fitting in cars as most of them shit themselves and throw the inners all over the bell housing and in the starter motors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, Catteeclan said: Is there only springs in the old and new compensator? Prob better than the dual mass fly wheels they're fitting in cars as most of them shit themselves and throw the inners all over the bell housing and in the starter motors. The old one is springs in a cup and ramps on the cogs, the new one uses a set of eight cushions of two different densities. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 12 hours ago, Buckster said: How did you guess? What was the point in the lip in the begining ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 8 minutes ago, boboneleg said: What was the point in the lip in the begining ? It just seems to be a casting lip, earlier bikes don’t have it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, Buckster said: It just seems to be a casting lip, earlier bikes don’t have it. why didn't you just do all that over the phone ... been a lot quicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catteeclan Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 3 hours ago, Buckster said: The old one is springs in a cup and ramps on the cogs, the new one uses a set of eight cushions of two different densities. Do you know what the cushions are made of, just wonder what bikes are using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 2 hours ago, Catteeclan said: Do you know what the cushions are made of, just wonder what bikes are using. Don’t know. Here is a diagram of the old one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, Marcel le Moose Fondler said: Thank God for those youtube videos...you'd probably would have fucked everything up...lol. Aren’t you due a flounce? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 Well it rides well, vibration is back to normal and hot starting is no problem, the hot starting was definitely becoming a problem and is classically caused by the compensator binding up. Will go on a long run tomorrow. I might go down south and rape @Six30. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 4 minutes ago, Buckster said: Well it rides well, vibration is back to normal and hot starting is no problem, the hot starting was definitely becoming a problem and is classically caused by the compensator binding up. Will go on a long run tomorrow. I might go down south and rape @Six30. I'm sure he's looking forward to your arrival already ............ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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