Sir Fallsalot Posted August 23, 2024 Share Posted August 23, 2024 Decided to start a thread on the ongoing maintenance and repairs for the Beta First entry was from some work last night when doing some maintenance i noticed the rear shock mud plate has been rubbing against the swingarm I've heard this is common on the KTM's but not read any reports on it for the Beta's The two scuff marks above the wear mark are where the air box is hitting the swing arm when my fat arse is bottoming the suspension out I cut and shaped a bit of Ali to fit where the flap touches so that will wear out instead of the swing arm I bonded it on with Tiger Seal the stuff used to stick car trim on good stuff I sprayed it this morning with some stone chip for colour mainly because it's what i had kicking around not too worried about the finish it will be covered in crap next time i'm out with the mud flap fitted and look at my shiny new non gay tyre 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamaHead Posted August 23, 2024 Share Posted August 23, 2024 Solid fix there Fred.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted August 23, 2024 Share Posted August 23, 2024 Nice work Fred, that should stop it wearing anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 21 hours ago, Sir Fallsalot said: Decided to start a thread on the ongoing maintenance and repairs for the Beta First entry was from some work last night when doing some maintenance i noticed the rear shock mud plate has been rubbing against the swingarm I've heard this is common on the KTM's but not read any reports on it for the Beta's The two scuff marks above the wear mark are where the air box is hitting the swing arm when my fat arse is bottoming the suspension out I cut and shaped a bit of Ali to fit where the flap touches so that will wear out instead of the swing arm I bonded it on with Tiger Seal the stuff used to stick car trim on good stuff I sprayed it this morning with some stone chip for colour mainly because it's what i had kicking around not too worried about the finish it will be covered in crap next time i'm out with the mud flap fitted and look at my shiny new non gay tyre poor original design ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted August 24, 2024 Author Share Posted August 24, 2024 6 hours ago, Six30 said: poor original design ? Probably, but i have found since looking at this that almost all bikes with the mud flap set up like this suffer from it. If you take it off then the rear shock gets destroyed with all the crap hitting it so its the lesser of the two evils i expect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busabeast Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 cant see that wearing through any time soon, good fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 On the Beta group page someone pointed out the difference between the X Trainer and RR air filter cage and said on my bike their interchangeable which sounded correct as they use the same air filter. So i ordered one and it arrived tonight The one on the left is for the X trainer looks a bit more restricting than the RR one. The bike is running a little rich from new and is definitely thirstier than the 2022 bike so hoping this will help lean it out a bit without messing with the jetting. So put a clean filter on and fuck it don't fit. I placed the cage on a piece of paper and drew around it and the footprint of both cages are identical it's that locating spigot thingy is about 6mm longer than the X Trainer one I got my needle files out and started filing a new locating bump, after about 30 minutes it was done and it fits just need some time to test ride it now 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Is there any liklelyhood of you cleaning any of those bikes 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 9 minutes ago, boboneleg said: Is there any liklelyhood of you cleaning any of those bikes Just as well Pete isn't here to see this shit. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earache Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 35 minutes ago, Buckster said: Just as well Pete isn't here to see this shit. It'd kill him. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 25 minutes ago, Earache said: It'd kill him. Okay, who sent a picture of a dirty bike to Pete? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 22 hours ago, boboneleg said: Is there any liklelyhood of you cleaning any of those bikes It's easier to hoover the mud off the garage floor 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 On 31/12/2024 at 09:58, Sir Fallsalot said: Just pulled the Beta out as i haven't looked at it for 3 months and the fecking battery is dead bloody Lithium crap, hoping my charger can recover it. On 31/12/2024 at 10:15, Sir Fallsalot said: Just checked and the battery charger is out of recovery mode and is now charging, Thought i'd give the starter a push and the bike has started Lithium batteries are great The Battery was dead before i got the bike out last weekend, after the charger recovered it enough to show some life i bumped it down the hill and it was good all day. Put the optimate on it when i got home and left it on. Tried the bike just now and battery is dead again even though the optimate was showing it ok, disconnected the optimate and put it back on and its in save mode again that was 5 minute ago its starting the bike again now fucking Lithium batteries are shit 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 33 minutes ago, Sir Fallsalot said: The Battery was dead before i got the bike out last weekend, after the charger recovered it enough to show some life i bumped it down the hill and it was good all day. Put the optimate on it when i got home and left it on. Tried the bike just now and battery is dead again even though the optimate was showing it ok, disconnected the optimate and put it back on and its in save mode again that was 5 minute ago its starting the bike again now fucking Lithium batteries are shit Is there a kick start on it too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboneleg Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I agree . Lithium batteries = good for race bikes , shit for everything else. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Pedro said: Is there a kick start on it too? No but there is a kit available for £260 the bike doesn't need a battery to run all it does is start the bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 There's a neat little button to push on the battery to push and it shows what the state of the charge is, it's showing full at the moment. Just checked if there is a parasitic draw on it but found the fuse gone in my multi meter don't know if its been gone for a while or i blew it today, have just ordered some more at a cost of £2.50 for one with £5 postage or £12 for five ordered the five i'm sure i can blow a few more. Got my multi meter out the van i use for work and it has a 0.43mA drain on it anything up to 50mA is acceptable so no problem there. Going to leave it disconnected for a while see if it goes dead again the bike is in a warm garage so i wouldn't be expecting any issues especially as its only just over a year old. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Sir Fallsalot said: No but there is a kit available for £260 the bike doesn't need a battery to run all it does is start the bike Would you be able to start it in somewhere rocky or muddy by yourself with no battery? The lithium battery on my bike died overnight from being fine to being the same as having no battery at all. The Exide shop that I went to after had their full range in stock, but told me that they'd never advise someone on a lithium battery if you go places away from home and want to be sure your bike restarts after an overnight stay or even a long enough stop for lunch 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Pedro said: Would you be able to start it in somewhere rocky or muddy by yourself with no battery? The lithium battery on my bike died overnight from being fine to being the same as having no battery at all. The Exide shop that I went to after had their full range in stock, but told me that they'd never advise someone on a lithium battery if you go places away from home and want to be sure your bike restarts after an overnight stay or even a long enough stop for lunch They stopped fitting the kickstart to the newer bikes as Beta has a very good reputation for reliable starting but it would be nice to have one and i would get one fitted but i'm just not sure i'll keep the bike long enough to justify the cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Sir Fallsalot said: i'm just not sure i'll keep the bike long enough to justify the cost. You bike whore 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 25/01/2025 at 11:53, boboneleg said: I agree . Lithium batteries = good for race bikes , shit for everything else. The Noco on the glide is great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 I have been reading up on it a bit and this explains things a bit but still think it shouldn't be going into safe mode over a week of no use. Thing is i changed the lead acid battery on the previous bike because it started to give me problems when it was about a year old but that gave me warning signs this one doesn't its either on or off which i don't like. Going to keep an eye on the voltage while its disconnected over a week and if nothing changes i'll do the same when its connected. A lithium motorcycle battery going into "safe mode" when left unused for a period is likely due to its built-in Battery Management System (BMS) detecting a low voltage, which is a safety feature to prevent damage from deep discharge; essentially, the battery is entering a "sleep mode" when left for too long and the voltage drops below a certain threshold. Key points about this issue: Low Voltage Trigger: Most lithium batteries have a pre-set low voltage level that triggers the safe mode, preventing further discharge and potential damage to the battery cells. How to "wake up" the battery: To bring the battery out of safe mode, simply connect it to a compatible charger and allow it to charge to a safe level. Possible reasons why your lithium motorcycle battery might be going into safe mode frequently: Long periods of inactivity: If you leave your motorcycle unused for extended periods, the battery can slowly drain due to internal self-discharge, eventually reaching the low voltage threshold. Faulty charger: Using an incompatible or malfunctioning charger can lead to improper charging, causing the battery to drop below the safe voltage level. High parasitic draw: If there are accessories or electronics drawing power even when the motorcycle is off, it can drain the battery faster, triggering the safe mode. Battery aging: As lithium batteries age, their capacity can decrease, making them more prone to entering safe mode due to lower voltage levels. What to do: Check the battery voltage: Use a multimeter to check the battery voltage when the bike is off. If it's significantly low, charge the battery fully. Use a proper charger: Ensure you are using a lithium-ion specific charger designed for your motorcycle battery. Address parasitic draws: Check for any accessories that might be drawing power when the bike is off and disconnect them if necessary. Consider battery replacement: If your battery is old and frequently enters safe mode, it might be time to replace it with a new one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 25/01/2025 at 18:03, Sir Fallsalot said: They stopped fitting the kickstart to the newer bikes as Beta has a very good reputation for reliable starting but it would be nice to have one and i would get one fitted but i'm just not sure i'll keep the bike long enough to justify the cost. Just Photoshop one on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fallsalot Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Buckster said: Just Photoshop one on. Why the fuck didn't i think of that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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